Comparing AIB fund investment and direct ETF?

Islandfielder

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In October, I will have €100k to invest for 5-8 years. I have been researching index funds and ETFs etc and interested to go that route directly. Looking at passive, tracking S&P, low fees, and especially looking at Vanguard (perhaps through DEGIRO).

As part of reviewing my finances in prep for retirement/ARF decisions in the next few years I’ve met with AIB (where I have current account and term deposit plus one Fund investment I recently paid deemed disposal on).

They advised that if I were to invest in their fund - they would provide 1.5% on top for customers who already have a fund. Bringing it to 101,500 But when I asked about charges it appears to me they are high and even with the extra 1.5% (which is then almost wiped out by give 1%) I’d be better to stick to where my I itial research had helped me land. Restrictions also seem high. Below is what they are offering. Appreciate thoughts from those of you more experienced with such matters?

The charges involved with these funds are as follows…

-1% government levy which is applied to the initial contribution.

-The annual management charge is 1.1% for fusion 2-5 and 1% for fusion 6. This is deducted monthly.

-There are exit penalties which are applied for partial or full redemption…… 5% for year 1,2 and 3….3% for year 4 and 1% for year 5…..no redemption charges from year 5 onwards(applied to value of redemption)
 
Why 5 - 8 years?

What split were you thinking of doing over asset classes with the ETFs? Because that's what you're comparing here via Fusion.

Comparing a multi-asset fund to an equity index tracker ETF isn't really a valid comparison.
 
RE your AIB comment and I hear you but seeing it as part of my financial research….

Yes. As I understand it - Vanguard ETFs I’m interested in are available via DEGIRO direct (and also via Standard Life with charges).
 
Presumably you're aware of the 41% 8 yearly deemed disposal and exit tax on many or most ETFs?
 
With ETFs subject to such taxation you'll have to do all the work in calculating and paying the tax due yourself.
 
Good point. Whereas MA funds structures tend to manage it oneself.

However I usually have to do tax return and payment on shares anyway as have some US shares via work.

Was also thinking about Standard Life’s Vanguard investments.
 
Why not an execution only intermediary like...


A suitably diversified equity shareholding would most likely involve much lower charges and taxes.
E.g.:
 
However I usually have to do tax return and payment on shares anyway as have some US shares via work.
If this is the case, then the main benefit of the LEAT fund (taking care of the tax for you) is not applicable.
And so the much lower fees from the ETF's then make them a much more compelling choice for you.

Personally I don't do either of these. I use Investment Trusts and Berkshire Hathaway, but you can find all the details on those in other posts.
 
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