Charge owners who do not register themselves

[ontour]

If people have not registered for the household charge within the next few months, the councils will have to spend money to complete the register of households. There will obviously be a cost involved in this. If people have not registered they should be levied a fee to cover the costs incurred by the council. There are people who can't afford to pay or refuse to pay however there needs to be a penalty for not registering.

There should be a wider range of activities that require household charge compliance. Selling a property will be one, applications for planning permission should be another. Mortgaging or remortgaging should also require that the household charge is up to date.

We should accept that all people can not or will not pay now and that some of this tax income will be deferred. The cost of deferring your household charge should be the government bond rate plus 2% or 3%. The option to pay later should remove the 'ability to pay' consideration and make it a pure property tax. If they wanted to be more friendly they could implement an interest waiver for those that can prove inability to pay now.

 

[bazermc]

I would imagine that the penalty and interest will be/should be used to cover the costs of late paying/registration

I also think big Phil said that unpaid household charge will stick on properties and crop up when the individual goes to sell it.

 

[Firefly]

If people have not registered for the household charge within the next few months, the councils will have to spend money to complete the register of households. There will obviously be a cost involved in this. If people have not registered they should be levied a fee to cover the costs incurred by the council. There are people who can't afford to pay or refuse to pay however there needs to be a penalty for not registering.

There should be a wider range of activities that require household charge compliance. Selling a property will be one, applications for planning permission should be another. Mortgaging or remortgaging should also require that the household charge is up to date.

We should accept that all people can not or will not pay now and that some of this tax income will be deferred. The cost of deferring your household charge should be the government bond rate plus 2% or 3%. The option to pay later should remove the 'ability to pay' consideration and make it a pure property tax. If they wanted to be more friendly they could implement an interest waiver for those that can prove inability to pay now.

Whilst I can see where you are coming from I think deferring the tax will do little to help the government coffers which are in a dire state in the present.

I know that many are against this tax and whilst people are free to petition for it to be abolished, in the meantime it is the law and should be enforced.

 

[Jazz01]

This charge / tax / whatever you want to call it is driving everyone mad... I've never seen such discussion & debate over something before.

Get over it - if someone has registered & paid - then it's done ... if they haven't - then they haven't - no business of anyone else but the person themselves & the councils following up on it...

 

[potnoodler]

Is that you phil?? And we're only doing what you told us to when you re unhappy with a service

 

[truthseeker]

If people have not registered for the household charge within the next few months, the councils will have to spend money to complete the register of households. There will obviously be a cost involved in this.

Yes, they didnt really think this through. Given current compliance rates it makes no economic sense to try to complete the register. Its just not practical or cost efficient to chase that many people.

 

[ontour]

Chasing that many people for payment is not practical but it still makes sense to complete the register.

If the government gave the impression that they were happy to let people rack up the interest charges, you would probably find a lot more people paying so that the government did not get the interest they 'want'.

 

[ontour]

- no business of anyone else but the person themselves & the councils following up on it...

We are not Greece or Italy yet, of course we should be concerned if there is only 50% compliance to a tax.

 

[Palerider]

Totally agree with JAZZO1 on this, I havn't paid, I've never been in court, have no penalty points and pay my taxes remembering that this is a charge not a tax and I'm entitled to my view and to my day out if it comes to it.

I think that some Government heads will fall at the next election as this is a very divisive issue, its not about the €100 or the fines that accrue..and there is a lot more like me that can wait in the long grass until next election day and then as I think I heard one time in Killinaskully ....'' ....bang, bang...it just took the wan shot to kill him ..' ..'