Cant find engine, how to release value in car?

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Car died last week, low oil pressure caused engine to blow. Audi A4 1.8T (2003 60K miles)

Cost to fit new engine from Audi is 5.5K, which I am obviously not going to proceed with.
Problem is a reconditioned or second hand engine cannot be found anywhere.
I have tried VAG specialist mechanics and numerous dismantlers both north and south of the border with no luck.

The Audi dealer where it is sitting at the moment give a trade in value of 2K (it might have been worth about 6.5K prior to blow out)

I do not want to purchase a car from main dealer or even in ROI at all and am looking at the option of importing from the UK.
If I do this however, how can I release any value left in my A4.

Assuming the worst case is I cannot find an engine, is my only option to sell to a dismantler and if so how much could I expect to get?
 
Phone them up and ask. I'm guessing less than 2k, but you never know.
Best of luck.
 
I find it difficult to understand why getting a 2nd-hand engine is so difficult. That engine is used across the VAG range, including the Audi TT, Skoda Octavia VRS amongst others, unless the issue is that the engines keep blowing up, which I don't believe is the case.

Have you tried scrappies in England, Scotland & Wales?

Here are some local ones -

http://www.partfinder.ie/ this throws up 3 1.8 petrol (163 bhp) engines of the correct year plus others

There are a few here with at least two VAG specialists - http://www.reallymeansounds.com/for...50568-local-scrap-yards-reference-list-2.html

No connection with any of them.
 
mathepac said:
I find it difficult to understand why getting a 2nd-hand engine is so difficult. That engine is used across the VAG range, including the Audi TT, Skoda Octavia VRS amongst others, unless the issue is that the engines keep blowing up, which I don't believe is the case.
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The engine in the audi is mounted longitudinally compared to the likes of the golf/tt and so on.

The reason these engines are hard to come by is because they are prone to failure due to oil starvation. The sump is very small in them and if oil changes are not done very regularly with fully synthetic oil the oil pick up pipe becomes gummed up with sludge and leads to low oil pressure and failure.
 
Neil_Ireland said:
The engine in the audi is mounted longitudinally compared to the likes of the golf/tt and so on.

The reason these engines are hard to come by is because they are prone to failure due to oil starvation. The sump is very small in them and if oil changes are not done very regularly with fully synthetic oil the oil pick up pipe becomes gummed up with sludge and leads to low oil pressure and failure.
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This is exactly how mechanics have explained the problem to me.
Is it possible to stick any other engine into this car besides the original (Engine code BFB)?
If I do that what are the consequences for re-sale / do I need to get the car re-registered or anything else I should know.
Would it be impossible to resell with a different engine???

Thanks
 
JMR said:
This is exactly how mechanics have explained the problem to me.
Is it possible to stick any other engine into this car besides the original (Engine code BFB)?
If I do that what are the consequences for re-sale / do I need to get the car re-registered or anything else I should know.
Would it be impossible to resell with a different engine???

Thanks
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What damage is done to your original engine?
Is the turbo gone?

You would need everything from your original engine except the bare head and block swapped over. Manifolds, turbo, breathers, oil filter housing, sump, oil pump pickup etc are all different.
 
Neil_Ireland said:
What damage is done to your original engine?
Is the turbo gone?

You would need everything from your original engine except the bare head and block swapped over. Manifolds, turbo, breathers, oil filter housing, sump, oil pump pickup etc are all different.
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So another BFB engine would realistically be required, otherwise too much labour needed?
Don't know if the turbo is gone, Audi dealer have simply told me engine is completely gone and a whole new one required.

Any ideas how to recover the maximum value from the car?
 
JMR said:
So another BFB engine would realistically be required, otherwise too much labour needed?
Don't know if the turbo is gone, Audi dealer have simply told me engine is completely gone and a whole new one required.

Any ideas how to recover the maximum value from the car?
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When they say a new engine the prob mean a short engine, which is block and head.

I'll give you 1000 euro for the car if you want a quick sale :)
 
I think you should go talk not to a dealer, but to an independent VAG specialist. Who might give you a different quote and options of a different engine.

The 1.8T is one of the most common engines ever. Its in VW, AUDI, SEAT, Skoda, even the ford Galaxy perhaps others aswell. Ditto other non turbo versions. I find it hard to believe they can't source one, even reconditioned.

Its a popular engine for modifying, and putting in kit cars etc. I assume because its easy to get one. I just think your Audi dealer isn't interested in the work and thus is fobbing you off. I think you need to do some leg work yourself.

http://vagdrivers.net
http:/vwvortex.com
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/carextras/1109653
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http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=201116

Still going to be expensive. But I'd guess not 5k.
 
Neil_Ireland said:
The engine in the audi is mounted longitudinally compared to the likes of the golf/tt and so on.

The reason these engines are hard to come by is because they are prone to failure due to oil starvation. The sump is very small in them and if oil changes are not done very regularly with fully synthetic oil the oil pick up pipe becomes gummed up with sludge and leads to low oil pressure and failure.
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See above, the transverse engine is common alright but not the longitudinally mounted engine.
 
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