Can Dubs win ANYTHING in sport ?

When was she caught and with what Sunny? How did she cheat her way to gold? was it by training too hard, getting out of Ireland and using proper facilities? maybe you ought to consider her times, which by standards at the time were slow for winning ones. The "cheat" who whined and made the allegations swam far faster times than Michelle in her career, as did a number in the finals in whch she swam. I still believe the testers never explained themselves fully and that the discrepancies in their story left too much unsaid.

 
Have yet to see the Dunne fight but got a word by word update from the Point. It was coming and it's as well he loses now before he steps up a grad. Martinez got lucky. And Bernard will come again.
 

I would agree with the above, there are many sports played in Dublin and I would be interested to know the breakdown between GAA, soccer and rugby. It should also be forgotten that Dublin is making huge strides at hurling, particularly at underage level. We were Leinster minor champs this year and are in the All Ireland U21 Final this year too. When was the last time Kilkenny were in a football final, at any level?
 

If you genuinely believe that using proper facilities and "training" harder made her a three times olympic champion, then fair enough. Fast or slow times by other swimmers have nothing to with it. The fact is that she improved HER times from nowhere. She shows no signs of world class improvements until she met Eric De Bruin and then managed to knock 19 seconds off her 400m times in 15 months. Whe went from being ranked around 90 in the world to 17 in space of 1 year after meeting De Bruin. And how did De Bruin have time to train her? Oh yes, he was serving a four year suspension for drug use. She is a drugs cheat just like the cyclists in the tour de France who weren't caught at the time but now freely admit that drugs is what helped them win. She has just never had the guts to admit it.
 

Exactly. What has been done with hurling in the county shows what can be done if proper planning is put in place.
 

The lab in Barcelona concluded the alcohol content in the urine sample was "in no way compatible with human consumption", and that it was "compatible with physical manipulation". The fact that they tried to get the results of the B sample buried is very telling.
 

De Bruin was banned from swimming for 4 years by FINA, the swimming governing body, for a serious doping offence. She appealed her ban to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne who dismissed her appeal. Nothing much to argue about there, I would have thought....

Fwiw, a useful reminder of the case here from the NY Times

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9C00E0D81039F93BA35755C0A96F958260

 
Given her strength I wonder would Michelle consider coming out of retirement and playing up front for the Dubs
 
She's now a legal eagle so she'll find you & sue your asses for libelous/slanderous & any other "ous" comments ye might put up here that would be worth a few bob
 
Padraig Hartrington in a world beater, He is after all British open champion the biggest golf event in the world, but he is from the southside after all
 
why is this not proportionately reflected in sport ?

Just because the country is rich doesn't mean that money is being invested in sports. The sports that we are good at, say rugby, the horsie stuff is largely played by the richer people in the country.

The country needs some sort of 'nationwide' academy of sport that will scout for talent in all sports, island-wide and offer some sort of scholarships where kids from all backrounds can come and further their talent without the pressure of money. Sports can be very expensive propositions for a parent.

With rugby especially, you are not going to make it very far unless your family hasmoney, or you don't get into one of the 'rugger schools'. Not munster, but leinster rugby for definite.

We need to look nationwide, there is talent out there, it's just being overlooked
 
i would expect a limerick fighter to do better but im sure he wouldnt know what to do with gloves on his hands instead of a knife and a few sovereign rings

Knives are so last year we have moved to sniper rifles now, and I didn't realise sovereign rings were only to be found in Limerick. By the way I think jimmy got it right about Andy Lee this time, he seems a nice fella.

I can only think of Baggio?

Gianluca Vialli is another, i will think of more!



Its pretty much the same in other counties regarding a wide variety of sports, Kerry wouldn't be the norm as in one sport being the absolute number one in a county. Take Limerick, Rugby, Gaelic, soccer, hurling are all popular and the main sports, but there is a wide variety and a large degree of success recently (hurling, rugby, boxing).
 
Kilmacud Crokes has almost as many senior players as fermanagh!! (probably more if you counted their underage structure)
 
look at the dublin supporters going around the the towns of ireland and wreaking them, shame on them, there only thugs
 
look at the dublin supporters going around the the towns of ireland and wreaking them, shame on them, there only thugs

Whats wreaking???? And to be fair to Dublin supporters, not many of them would be caught saying 'there only thugs'
 
all of they're away games, oh yea they play all of they're games in croke park, thank god we dont have to put up with there supporters, is that not unfair, they do not play away from home??
 
i was actually in a town after a dublin match and there were trees broken and street furniture wreaked, i asked a local what happened and he said that dublin were playing a match in the town the day before, is that the reason there're not allowed play outside dublin??