Boss ripped us off

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mel77

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Hi all,
Hoping some of ye can give us some advice.

My husband discovered on friday that his job had gone into liquidation last Dec and his boss had sent in p45's to revenue for all the employees, but he didn't tell the employees about it and they have all still been working there.
Basically, his boss is trying to re-open the business under a different name and didn't see any point in telling them all they were legally out of a job!
We have applied for FIS which we are due to receive a decision on in the next couple of weeks, although I was told on the phone that there is no reason why we wouldn't get it. Now however, when they go to process my husbands claim i'm sure it will come up that he's actually un-employed and has been for 3 mths so our claim will be rejected. We lose out on weekly payment and the best part of 2,000 euro in back payments.
My husband has obviously told his boss that he is leaving the job as we don't want to get fined from the revenue when this inevitably comes out. The boss reckons the business will be back up and running within a couple of weeks and is urging the employees to hang on and not report him. This all only came out because we needed my husbands p60 or a payslip or we would lose our medical card. They obviously have not been given payslips and were told it was because they were changing accountants.
We have lost so much and are financially ruined because of this. Not easy when you also have 4 kids.
What is the best way to handle this? is there anyway we can recoup some of our loss especially with the FIS? don't know where to turn
 
What an awful worry for you, and I hope you get things sorted in a satisfactory fashion very quickly. I have no particular advice for you but you may find a useful link here: [broken link removed]
 
Jeepers - this country is going backwards. Are the staff in a Trade Union ? Or if not is your husband in a Trade Union ?? Failing that March down to your local TD tomorrow morning.
 
his boss had sent in p45's to revenue for all the employees, but he didn't tell the employees about it and they have all still been working there.
Eh? A P45 is a document issued to an employee leaving a job for whatever reason. It's not a document sent by an employer into Revenue. Are you sure that you don't have the wrong end of the stick on this issue whatever about the wider situation?
My husband has obviously told his boss that he is leaving the job as we don't want to get fined from the revenue when this inevitably comes out. The boss reckons the business will be back up and running within a couple of weeks and is urging the employees to hang on and not report him.
And do they trust his word after this seeming underhanded behaviour? If so then they are very naive. Employers such as this should be reported and not let get away with such behaviour.
What is the best way to handle this? is there anyway we can recoup some of our loss especially with the FIS? don't know where to turn
Contact www.employmentrights.ie and maybe www.citizensinformation.ie for advice. Contact www.mabs.ie if you have financial problems.
 
Eh? A P45 is a document issued to an employee leaving a job for whatever reason. It's not a document sent by an employer into Revenue. Are you sure that you don't have the wrong end of the stick on this issue whatever about the wider situation?

Part 1 of the P45 is submitted to Revenue by the employer and the remaining parts given to the employee. So its quite possible that the employer in question has submitted P45's to Revenue for his employees without their knowledge.
 
Regarding the FIS application, the employer has to certify that your husband is employed by him, and will be employed by him for at least three months. Has this been done?
 
Why not claim redundancy money from the employer since he was officially made redundant? Might make him think twice about this if he has to liquidate the assets to pay the employees redundancy.

My advice on employers like this - stay clear of them, they are too much trouble and the employees always lose out in the end.
 
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