Betting question - is this an issue

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Alan J

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Just backed a horse to win the big race on Saturday at an Ante post price. I also back the same horse in a double to win at Cheltenham (also ante Post). Now someone tells me there might be a conflict here - is that correct?

Al
 
I have a vague recollection of this being an issue. Must admit I switched off when it was being explained but there is something niggling me about it.

Ring the Bookie!!!!!
 
I do a bit of gambling but horses aren't really my field. In general terms I can't see a problem with your bet but perhaps your friend and Freddie are right

Go to the Paddy Power and enter as a guest. Have a look through the help menu and see what you can find.

Let us know the answer when you find out.
 
not a vaild bet

This is not a valid bet. The cashier should not have taken it. If the horse wins the first race it's price will likely shorten for the second race. The bookie wont payout on this bet. You should get your money back before it runs on Saturday.
 
More Casinos than Betting but ...

Hi,

I'm more into playing online casinos, than bookies myself - although I do some of the decent free bet promotions etc.

I suspect that if the bookmaker has taken the bet, then they should need to honour it - given they have in theory "accepted your offer of a contract" ... does this not seem correct to everyone else ?

Might be worth checking it out on one of the online betting discussion forums - check out:

www.rpoints.com/newbie

www.bet2gamble.com

Often you need to register, before you can read / post on these boards but both have a lot of gamblers on them (not to mention loads of decent promotions), so they are worth a visit imho :)

Regards

G>
ps - Interest declared, I'm an Admin @ Rpoints although I do not own the site :)
 
bets

No bet is valid just because you have as slip.

They
 
are

always subject to rules.

Can't see what is wrong with your bet though.
 
The bookie can void any bet taken in error. Also there is no legal requirement on a bookie to payout on any bet, it's more a gentleman's agreement.
 
michaelm is correct on both counts. The bet will be void as one is dependant on the other. If the horse wins on Saturday it will shorten the odds for the Cheltenham race therefor the antipost price will change. Its a bit like backing a tennis match for someone to win the match and doubling it with the same person to win by 3 sets to 1. Both bets are connected. The bookie will simply void the bet. If the cashier read every single bet she takes and checks for validity it would be worse than the queue in Aldi on a Saturday - that's why that is a non runner.
 
not so

They are two seperate events and most bookies will be happy to take on a such a bet and will pay out.

as for analagy

you can bet on man utd to win the league and cup

And obvioulsy their odds are affected individually but conected by the form in both.

It is down to the bookie and whether the bet was taken
on as such

It is not like the tennis match as that is the same match.
 
One dependent on the other?

But Elcato... if my horse is beaten on Saturday then the Cheltenham odds will drift .... just like say Rhinestone Cowboy.... so the bookie wins in that case.

AJ
 
Alan

On the same subject



I give a lot to sick animal charities


I dont know at the time of the bet!!!

But never the less I take comfort from knowing how kind I am.
 
Checked with the bookie!

Just checked with the bookie and they confirmed with the Head Office..... NO PROBLEM!

Now all the shaggin thing has to do is WIN!!!!

AJ
 
Re: Checked with the bookie!

In that case I stand corrected. Sorry for any misleading info but interesting to hear from you again if the bet comes up.
 
re: not so

funghythehamster - you can't bet on man utd to win the league and cup using the individual odds in a double however some bookies offer special shorter priced doubles.

Elcato - nothing you said was misleading.

Alan J - a bet such as for example Best Mate to win at Christmas doubled with Best Mate to win the Gold Cup is not valid unless the bookie offers a 'special' price for the double.

I too would be interested to hear from you again if the bet comes up as if its for big money there may be a problem. Most bookie staff don't know anything about betting.
 
Confusion?

I think that there might be some confusion here.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if you have 2 horses, X & Y. You can legitamitely bet on horse Y to win a race tomorrow and in a separate bet do a double on horse Y to win next week and horse X to win next week. You could not do a double on horse Y to win tomorrow and horse Y to win next week.
 
Re: Confusion?

You're wrong there Christy, Alan J's bookie just confirmed that you can.
 
the boookies

Firstly, If the horse wins at the weekend then that horses odds will come down for cheltenham. But is the horses odds determined by how it does at the weekend? I think not, what if it didnt run at the weekend, would the odds still be the same?
Secondly, If you were betting on man utd to win the FA cup and having the bet in a double with them beating whoever they play in the final or any other round along the way, the first part of the bet is dependent on the second part coming in so its conflicting and that bet would not be legal as it would have been taken in error.

In this case we have to ask is the horses odds for cheltenham abosultely dependent on how its going to run on saturday and I think not as they arent guaranteed to change, hence IMHO and in the bookies he has a legal bet.
 
MichaelM - response.

I called the office in question by phone and mentioned that someone had indicated there might be an issue. I agree that in a lot of cases they haven't a clue so they faxed the docket to HQ and rang me back to say "that's fine".

By the way the bookie in question is Hacketts which is a fairly large group.

What more can I do?

AJ
 
Re: MichaelM - response.

Given that this has post has had agood airing any chance of the name of the horse ?
 
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