Best Value Coal In Cork City And Surrounds?

Drakon

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Hi,

I moved to the city last year and brought my old coal and bunker with me.
But it’s time to restock and I’m wondering where is the best value in and around the city.
I’m looking for standard coal, ie, the rough cut smokey coal, not those smokeless pebbles that are formed from dust.

Ideally collection only (as “free delivery” is normally priced in) and if there are any Black Friday sales, even better.
I assume I can expect to pay that bit less just outside the city than within?

(I used to pay €100 for 6 bags).
 

Jazz01

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Hi Drakon - only smokeless coal in the city & 'burbs. I don't think you will get anyone to deliver the "standard coal" to any city address. If you collecting yourself, then maybe a trip to Bandon / Macroom and you should be able to pick up the "polish coal" type, which I think, is the one you are looking for.

Non-Smokeless Coal and the Law
We can only deliver Non-Smokeless fuels to addresses that are outside of the current designated Cork City and County smokeless zone. Details of the designated Smokeless zone can be found on the Cork County Council website
 
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Drakon

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Yeah, I’ve no interest in getting it delivered. Was thinking Brandon/Macroom alright.
 

Drakon

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It is legal, though, isn’t it, to burn non smokeless coal in Cork City, Dublin, etc?
Just not legal to buy it or have it delivered?
 

Jazz01

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Don't quote me on this, but my understanding is that it's illegal to burn the coal in the designated city areas. How this is enforced is another thing.
 
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Drakon

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Why? Because in terms of the heat return, bog standard old school coal is superior to those artificial smokeless nuggets!

How do I know, you’re probably asking? Personal experience!
I gave smokeless a go a few years ago, on purpose. You’d have to burn three times as much to get the same heat.

Then two years ago I got it by accident. 6 f-ing bags of it. My missus was none too impressed. Flew through it though, as it’s rubbish.

I’d love to know the process in creating smokeless coal. I can’t help but think someone is taking the good energy out of honest decent coal, using it for themselves, then fobbing of the dregs as this smokeless dross.

Trying to heat a sitting room with smokeless coal is like trying to get pissed on 0.4% “alcohol free” beer.
 
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Drakon

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I don’t even burn much coal. I’ve a free endless supply of firewood which covers my needs, with a bit of turf thrown in for some hugge.
But coal is necessary to get the wood burning proper hot. And the wood, conversely, is great to get tinder the coal.
“They burn each other”, as my grandmother used to say.

The turf is clean, adds fragrance, and “keeps the fire in”, as my mother would say.
 

Saavy99

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Trying to heat a sitting room with smokeless coal is like trying to get pissed on 0.4% “alcohol free” beer.
I agree smokeless coal is useless unless you have some logs, and at 20 euro a bag, daylight robbery with it.
 

Drakon

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Interesting. I’m relieved that they mention peat and wood as polluters too.
Turf, not house coal, is the most environmentally unfriendly of the open fire/stove fuels.

And as it happens, I’m just back from my local fuel depot, less than a mile from the gaff.
“What type coal do you sell?”, I asked.
“What are you looking for?”.

Job done!
 

Drakon

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I do my bit for the environment, but obviously I’m not 100% compliant.
That recent survey of millennials where they were asked their biggest concern (the environment) and their biggest desire (travel the world) suggests that many that espouse environmental purity are not 100% compliant either.
 

Firefly

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I do my bit for the environment, but obviously I’m not 100% compliant.
Given that you're intent on burning smokey coal in the city you're not nearly compliant. Any chance you could think of others?
 

Drakon

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Any chance you could think of others?
I did when I paid my water charges and look where that got me!
When the ban is made nationwide I’ll change my behaviour.
I assume residents of Douglas, Ballincollig etc, are burning off their remaining supplies of house coal, that they didn’t simply dump it in the black bin when the boundary changes took effect earlier this year.
 

Firefly

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When the ban is made nationwide I’ll change my behaviour.
So you need a ban to change your behaviour? Interesting outlook you have there.

I assume residents of Douglas, Ballincollig etc, are burning off their remaining supplies of house coal, that they didn’t simply dump it in the black bin when the boundary changes took effect earlier this year.
Using up smokey fuels you you have already bought and actively trying to buy new smokey fuels are two different things.
Anyway so long as you are happy that's obviously the main thing.
 

Zenith63

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Interesting. I’m relieved that they mention peat and wood as polluters too.
Turf, not house coal, is the most environmentally unfriendly of the open fire/stove fuels.
Not to continue to rag on you here, but "environmentally unfriendly" is quite a vague term. Yes turf produces more CO2 than coal, which is bad for the macro environment (climate change), but coal releases signifcantly more NOx than turf and NOx is the one that hangs around your locality and poisons your neighbours. NOx is what has turned everybody against diesel, even though diesel engines tend to generate signifcianly less CO2 than petrol. Not dying of cancer from NOx emissions seems to be taking precedence over climate change at the moment...

Given all the press about pollution in cities and the speculation that a portion of that is being caused by people flouting the the smokey coal ban, I think you can be pretty sure there will be a crack down in the coming months, might not be an ideal time to take up the practice...
 

Saavy99

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They were talking about it on radio earlier, everyone.is.in agreement that smokeless.coal.is absolute shite unless youi mix it with turf, brickettes etc, kind of defeats the purpose really. Coal merchant are calling.for suppliers to up their game and to start supplying decent smokeless coal.
 
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