Ironically Solicitors in large firms work crazy hours as well.You’ll have to explain that one to me, sorry. The point is that in lots of businesses, e.g. professional practice, aircraft leasing, financial services, etc, senior people get paid pretty well. However, the flipside is that they often work insanely long hours and operate in an environment where, in practice, niceties such as Organisation of Working Time Acts etc simply don’t apply. And the person who whinges about it gets zero bonus and gets managed out.
It is illegal. Crazy, isn't it.I remember putting in 18 hour days…that’s 90 hours a week…probably illegal.
There’ll always be eejits looking to milk the system though, unfortunately.
You’ll have to explain that one to me, sorry.
Yawn...Isn't that what they do now?
Yep. Most of my friends work in the State sector.Do you actually know how things work these days?
Might be worth a separate thread on this topic, would be interesting to see what the various return positions are and how they're working out for various industry types here.I know in the case of my own employer (tech firm), our starting point now is that no-one needs to be in the office, ever. We're shutting most offices world wide, moving to home working and will retain some office space for things like client meetings, workshops etc but that is it.
If that individuals presence in office isnt critical then that individual can reasonably say no to employer
They had provided additional context though. See below, seems fair.Your posts should come with a danger warning..
Ridiculous frame of thought.
so if you have a situation (and the OP would need to confirm) where:
1. Gove guidance is wfh where appropriate.
2. Company has 90% staff wfh.
3. Manager asks particular individual to return to office in spite of there being no formal company policy to do so.
If that individuals presence in office isnt critical then that individual can reasonably say no to employer, that they would like to follow gove guidance and continue wfh like majority of colleagues.
...i would be saying no to the compant if thats how I felt and unless they had a valid reason for requiring him in office.
Most people in this country don't work in an office. Most employers don't have a HR department, let alone HR policies. They are small cafe's, shops, hair dressers, restaurants etc who are trying to keep the lights on. That is, by far, the hardest business to run.You have a situation here where the employee knows best. I could have taken any of his comments and applied the danger sign. I have had that thought process here before. Glad to say, they were "managed out".
The danger here, is that some poor gullible soul, will think its ok to confront your employers with the slim pickings of Government advice.
This articulates better what i was tryin to say.In some circumstances it might be ok for an employee to ask (no confronting) their manager if its ok that they continue working from home.
OP mentioned 90% colleagues still working from home so it might be ok for them to check with their manager if their role allows them to continue working from home.
They should not confront manager or refuse to carry out a reasonable request.
They can, however, question the request in light of the continuing pandemic.
Some roles may require the employee to go back to office so the OP should consider if this is the case.
Talk to your manager OP.
Not really surprised the way that so many topics get dragged off into bickering about stuff not really directly relevant to the original questions...We seem to have lost the OP unfortunately
Kind of inevitable that others will relate their own experiences where the OP chooses not to respond and clarify.Not really surprised the way that so many topics get dragged off into bickering about stuff not really directly relevant to the original questions...
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