All this talk of "dodgy boxes"

JoeRoberts said:
Still not the case.
You just didnt need the service.
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I watch Live Sports so I subscribe to NOW TV at the moment for the sports only.

Its the 'entertainment' channels that I was obliged to pay for that was the rip-off poor value for money, in my opinion. For sure, there are some great TV series made but as far as I can recollect there always was. The BBC was always producing great quality TV, drama, comedy, documentaries.

But hundreds of channels that I never utilised but was still paying for as an obligation under-contract.
 
elefantfresh said:
I think the main issue with the tv subscriptions is that there are so many and if you want to watch the masters you need sub A, if you want the prem you need sub B, if you want tv series xyz then you need sub C.
Before you know it, you're 100 lids down per month
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I suspect if most of the dodgy box users did a Money Makeover there would be plenty of budget found for TV!
 
arbitron said:
I am bewildered at the number of estimated users in Ireland: 400,000 households!
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Given that there are 2.1M dwellings and Virgin have a million customers and Sky 700K leaves 400k on the dodgy boxes??
or would that be "Dodgy Maths"
elefantfresh said:
Anyways, you dont even need a dodgy box
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Agreed, I've used many a legally free website to get, not all but, most of the content I want to watch

Speaking of dodgy practices seems Netflix is having a hard time in some European countries

https://www.digitec.ch/en/page/netflix-prices-illegal-court-orders-refunds-in-italy-42171
 
"Could still be considered to be signposting, mind you?!"

Really?

I'm not for one second recommending or suggesting that anyone should do anything illegal - just highlighting that the internet has many options

If what i said above is considered signposting or out of place, feel free to have it removed
 
In spite of what some folks think, dodgy boxes are not a form of market correction sending a message to big corporations. They are market destruction and sabotage.

In a functioning market, if Sky, Virgin, Eir, Netflix overcharge or underperform, a legitimate new competitor has the potential to enter, compete on price/service, and win customers. It's not easy but it is possible. Dodgy box operators are not competitors in this sense because they do not have to play by the same rules. They are selling stolen content without the high cost of rights (i.e. paying the workers who created the content), infrastructure, regulation, tax, compliance, and so on, so of course they can undercut legal providers and make them seem expensive.

With hundreds of thousands of people using the boxes, the damage is not trivial. Revenue is pulled out of a productive, legal ecosystem that funds sports, film, TV, journalism, crews, customer support, future programming. Less money made on Premier League or big boxing matches means less money available for women's sports or other areas that are already neglected. Less money means less risk-taking, fewer new commissions, less investment in new talent, more recycled "safe" content, and fewer jobs. This is bad for society and the economy.

On top of that, piracy operations are often linked to wider criminality, so there is a good chance users may be helping to fund organised crime.
 
elefantfresh said:
If what i said above is considered signposting or out of place, feel free to have it removed
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Have no intention of requesting such a thing. Not my job anyway.
In fact 'come on and spill the beans:)' was my original jovial request.
However if you did feel like..................................???
 
I pay a TV licence fee and a TV subscription... it will all turn up there eventually but occassionally I may advance that timeline :)
 
Cervelo said:
Given that there are 2.1M dwellings and Virgin have a million customers and Sky 700K leaves 400k on the dodgy boxes??
or would that be "Dodgy Maths"
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I think that many of those people have a basic package that they pay for and a dodgy box for sports, movies and streaming services.
 
Purple said:
many of those people have a basic package that they pay for and a dodgy box for sports, movies and streaming services.
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In fairness my comment was in jest as I feel the 400k dodgy boxes is overstating it imo
But I would have thought and if I was to do it myself, why would I pay for a basic package and a dodgy box
I remember back in the 90's you were able to buy a decoder and card to go with your Sky box that gave you access to certain German channels
But these days I thought the dodgy box was a one stop shop that could do it all, so why waste money on a basic package as well??
 
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