Key Post Advice for people facing court repossession proceedings

Discussion in 'Mortgage arrears & negative equity case studies' started by Brendan Burgess, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. Brendan Burgess

    Brendan Burgess Founder

    Last edited: Jan 20, 2017
    Lessons for people facing court proceedings in the Dublin Circuit Court

    Every Registrar is different, so the practice in your court might be different.

    Show up in court even if the bank tells you it’s not necessary

    • You will get a longer adjournment if you want one
    • It shows respect for the court
    • It shows that you are acting responsibly and taking your debts seriously
    • You get used to speaking in court. The first few appearances are rarely adversarial. If you have to argue your case and it’s the first time in court, you may lose confidence.
    • In the unlikely event that the Registrar grants an order against you, then she will give you a longer stay on that order.

    Pay something meaningful. Even if you can’t pay much, pay something.

    • But even if you are paying nothing, show up in court and explain why.

    If you show up in court and pay something meaningful, it’s unlikely that you will lose your home.

    If you pay nothing and if you don’t show up in court, it is much more likely that an order will be granted against you.

    The banks make a lot of mistakes which you can exploit to get an adjournment. It’s better to get an adjournment because you are paying your mortgage and hope your circumstances will improve, but if you need to exploit their mistakes, here is what they do:

    • They don’t serve you proper notice of the proceedings
    • They file an affidavit the day before the court hearing
    • They forget to file an affidavit that they have complied with the CCMA
    • Evidence that they changed their name from Ulster Bank to Ulster Bank DAC is not on the file.
    • They sometimes don’t appear in court.

    You are probably better off representing yourself than using a solicitor – there are very rarely any legal arguments of any substance. It’s more personal if you are speaking directly to the Registrar. It’s easier for her to grant an order without looking the borrower in the eye.

    Relying on bogus legal arguments from the fringe legal groups is not a good idea. You will get a shorter adjournment than you would have otherwise got or you will be referred quickly to the Judge’s List where a repossession is much more likely

    Attend a few sittings of the Repossession Court before your case is due to be heard. You will get to know the ropes and it will be less intimidating.

    On the day, get in 15 minutes before the start and sit at the front so you can hear your case being called.

    The Registrar does not grant the bank costs when a case is struck out. So if the bank’s solicitor tells you that they will be applying to strike out the case and you won’t need to attend, attend anyway, and ask the Registrar about costs. She will probably make a specific direction that costs are not to be added to the case. (I am very interested in hearing from anyone whose bank charged them legal fees without a court order.)

    The Registrar will help borrowers who are genuinely doing their best.

    • She will order the solicitor and the bank to designate one person to deal with you if you have been messed around by the banks.
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2017
  2. Gordon Gekko

    Gordon Gekko Frequent Poster

    Hi Brendan,

    I think that it's worth highlighting the advantages of rehearsing what you're going to say and having bullet points written down on a speaking note.


  3. esiuol

    esiuol Registered User

    Hello Brendan

    You say above about once the case is referred to a judges list that repossession is much more likely. In your opinion, is this the case even where very meaningful amount are being paid every month without fail?

    Thank you
  4. Brendan Burgess

    Brendan Burgess Founder

    Hi esiuol

    I don't know the answer to your question.

    When I was attending the Registrar's hearings in 2015, very few were sent to the Judge's Lists. So I attended the Judge's List only once and there were only two or three cases on it.

    The Judge's Lists have more cases these days, so I will attend a few to see what happens.

    Cases were referred by the Registrar for two reasons:

    Mainly because the bank wanted yet another adjournment and she was so annoyed that she referred them to the Judge to dispose of them as she saw fit.

    Others were when people put up Freeman type legal arguments and she referred them to the Judge who, I hope, will grant orders for possession.

    There was one case where the borrower was paying more than the monthly installment, but he point blank refused to deal with the lender. No SFS. Told the solicitors to stop writing to him. The Registrar did not want to grant an order , so referred it to the Judge. She also issued an order to the borrowers to attend court.

  5. esiuol

    esiuol Registered User

    Thanks Brendan
    Very stressful situation for this couple. Numerous proposals made to bank but none have been accepted. Payments made every month.
  6. Brendan Burgess

    Brendan Burgess Founder

  7. esiuol

    esiuol Registered User

    Will give the option. Thanks Brendan. I gather that they have been looking to get the monthly payment restructured and arrears capitalised. They are paying 80% of the amount due per month and have been for some time. Seem to be paying a higher interest rate also.