41, not sure what to do. Cash rich, time poor.

Hi all just an update on how things are going in general, been a very rough time recently.



The good news is that I have about 300k invested into various decent-rate fixed term deposit accounts. They seemed an ok, and reliable, way to proceed for now and ensured that I had a maximum of 100k per bank. Some is in Luxembourg through Raisin, AIB, pTSB and then I have my 75k Zurich investment too. I am aware I have to sort out my own DIRT tax and likely PRSI at 4.1%. So all of that is good, and I got in there when interest rates were highest.



Since this thread turned into personal advice as well (I'm ok with that!), things are going reasonably well with my girlfriend. She hasn't moved in, nor have I moved out and we seem happy enough as we are for now. There is a lot of other things to consider here - she has cats which must of course be accounted for, and also had her previous boyfriend (or husband, I dunno!) committed suicide. I don't know if I have the strength to fully help someone who will need the support she does in that, or the caring shoulder but I do my best. It does worry me a bit can I give her enough, which worries me.



My parents are still doing ok but are ailing now - the garden is a mess, the house structure shows rough edges and the whole place could do with a really deep clean but is ok. My father still vetos any outside help of any description, but this is coming to a head after the week just gone.



I brought norovirus home. Despite my own very strict hygiene precautions my dad caught it two days after I brought it home. I had it for about five days, 36 hours of hell then many days of recovery as it always goes. He covered up that he had it for a day, as my mum had to be ambulanced to hospital for unrelated Parkinsons issues, and because I was bedbound he drove up to the hospital to pick her up, just as he was showing symptoms. He then took to the bed with it, but needed trips to the doctor for possible low grade melena, which is being investigated but is not serious. We're both washed out and I had to push myself to try and keep two parents cared for, not one, whilst sick. Mercifully, my mother did not get it - this is the second time its been through the house and she didn't get it then either - she attributes it to being a primary school teacher in the 60s/70s.



Anyway, we're hopefully through it but it did bring care to light though motivation to sort it out is waning already. My mum can't focus on things like that with Parkinsons, she gets too nervous of potential change and just leaves the room. So we continue. I am split three ways - work, my girlfriend, and parental care. I have said that I can only manage two of these things, but sadly all three actually need MORE of my time. Notice how I don't include "time with just myself" in those three. There just isn't any.

Work - I have precisely two potential employers in my field within a two hour drive. I work for one, I wouldn't work for the other. Public service. No WFH, no reduced hours possible.

Girlfriend - We spend most weekends together at each others places, and she comes down to mine for a night midweek with an office day thrown in.

Parents - As above!



I don't know of a solution. The Internet says that I should put my girlfriend 100% first and ease my parents aside, that a future family is more important than current one with parents. I agree, absolutely, but my experience is that such a statement is brushed aside by sheer practical reality. For instance: My dad is bedbound with norovirus, my mum can't drive anymore, who can pick up essential medicines? Who can do the shopping? Who empties the dishwasher? There is simply no-one. A carer will not do house jobs we're told, only caring for the person. I dread to think what will happen when one dies. Its very hard to see your own parents turn from sensible pensioners into stubborn, intransigent old people who demand help.



So life goes on. I feel there is an endgame there somewhere where things will break down, but quite how that will work out I don't know.
 
who can pick up essential medicines? Who can do the shopping?
Online delivery

Who empties the dishwasher?
Pay someone to come in and do it (I get that the dishwasher is just one item of a large list of household tasks).


A carer will not do house jobs we're told, only caring for the person.
As above, get a cleaner along with a carer.


I think the best way forward with your life is to get paid help. You could explain to your parents that you need help to help them and still live your life (like they have always wanted you to), and maybe see about getting help in on a 'trial' basis or just for a couple of weeks to 'help you through a busy few weeks at work'. The hope being that they love having the help so much that they want to keep them on.

Normally I'd have a go at having so much money on deposit doing nothing, but I don't think that's what you need to be worrying about just now
 
The following two points are based on the assumption of a long-term relationship between you and your gf.

Could you buy a house near your parents, where you and your gf could live?

Could the 600k family home be split in two / extended to form two "houses"? Two different relations of mine have done this.
 
I think that, with Parkinson’s going only direction, you are making a big mistake in your priorities.

It is telling that your first response to the great advice here was to report extra interest earned on accounts.

Money is not everything. It is a means to facilitating living a good life.

Your parents, maybe your mother rather than your father, feel that because they are paying everything for you that you are lucky and owe them your life. You should start paying your own way, tell them no saving of some inheritance tax is worth life. You and they can well afford some help. You are an adult. Pay someone to do the garden and other tasks. You don’t need their permission to do this. Take back your time. Make plans for your future with your gf. She sounds like a gem. Your mother is making no accommodation for your quality of life by blocking plans for building and tasks based on costs and savings. You are not being treated like an adult in this scenario and it will only get worse if you give up your job and the financial autonomy you have.
 
You clearly love your parents & want to do the best for them. But a tatty house / garden / overburdened offspring etc., is not what anyone wants.

So, time to set some boundaries.

Ask yourself what could your best life look like right now?

Then take steps to get there.
 
My best life would be everyone just leaving me alone right now, maybe going down to a half term contract at work and doing a lot of relaxed travelling, but that's not going to happen!

General updates
- We all got over the tummy bugs.
- The GP recommended respite care for my father. Before he could even answer she said "absolutely not". She is and will refuse any form of care, she either wants him to do it or just doesn't want to think about the idea of someone else doing it.
- She told me today that she couldn't bear being sent to an old folks home - if she was put into one she said she'd stop eating.
- She is absolutely miserable, says quite often she'd just like to lie there and howl with tears. He is miserable, sick of the whole thing, but will run himself into his own grave under "in sickness and in health till death do us part".
- He is reaching his limits I think, and there are frequent clashes between them as he wants to do the housework his way, and she wants it done her way even though she can't.
- Apparently I upset him last night somehow by getting annoyed about something (I don't even know what!) and he didn't sleep last night as a result.
- The garden is deteriorating rapidly. He still refuses outside help for that, or for any indoor cleaning, assistance etc. He won't have anyone in to put up handles or front door bannisters and wants to do it himself even though he can't as his time is going into caring for her!
- She only ever leaves the house rarely now and even then sits in the car. She has definitely deteriorated in the past month or so. Home is now not a relaxing or a nice place to be.
- Things are going well with my girlfriend still but theres probably a 50% chance of it all falling apart due to stress on my end. I just feel exhausted all the time.

I'm back at work in the next few days and quite how I'm going to get back up to that level of stress again I don't know. Remember there are only two possible employers within range of where I live, only a handful in all of Ireland and I'd need training/exams to do my job abroad which I just couldn't face. I can't say too much more as it would be easy to work out my identity which I don't want.

Also: "Could the 600k family home be split in two / extended to form two "houses"? Two different relations of mine have done this."

This was suggested several years ago and we actually got planning permission for it and plans drawn up. They'd have a self contained apartment with a small lift, effectively. The builders told us it would be straightforward enough to do - but when we got them around to look more closely it turned out the ceiling would need to be taken off the kitchen and a reinforced steel bar put across the whole thing. My mum then vetoed the idea as the kitchen had recently been done.

It really has deteriorated over the past month, but with no good in sight whatsoever. I still can't countenace leaving. He's out shopping at the moment and the only reason he can do that is because I'm in the house with her.
 
Re the carers for what it’s worth we have had HSE funded carers for a few years now.
Yes they are paid to do care but that includes say making breakfast and cleaning up after it, if that’s what needed. No they won’t clean the windows but if the bed needs remaking with fresh bed linen they’ll do that and load the washing machine.

After a period when they’ve got used to my mum (that’s a job) they have been great at helping her with domestic chores, like bring spuds in to her to peel as she can’t always get to kitchen. Help her make soup. Make sandwiches for lunch and leave them ready.

So,with a bit of luck and some polite asking not demanding they will go above and beyond, they will also run to the pharmacy btw if it’s nearby,

We had the care battles with mum, for ages, we were run ragged, and theres 3 of us! Nothing was good enough for her, dad was developing dementia and was causing even more stress. I was told off for putting the plates in the dishwasher wrong, putting the wrong towels in the bathroom… I dreaded going there but we couldn’t leave them home alone. Then dad was in hospital for 3 months and when he came out the situation was so different… he needed a new level of care, and she had no choice but to adapt.
It took a fairly major row and tears to get there. We asked mums GP to help us persuade them. She laid it out pretty clearly.

So we aren’t home free but it’s miles better.

See if you can get the GP to help. Her and the community nurse were instrumental in getting mum to listen
 
She told me today that she couldn't bear being sent to an old folks home - if she was put into one she said she'd stop eating.
- She is absolutely miserable, says quite often she'd just like to lie there and howl with tears. He is miserable, sick of the whole thing, but will run himself into his own grave under "in sickness and in health till death do us part".
- He is reaching his limits I think, and there are frequent clashes between them as he wants to do the housework his way, and she wants it done her way even though she can't.
- Apparently I upset him last night somehow by getting annoyed about something (I don't even know what!) and he didn't sleep last night as a result.
You need to have a chat with them. They need to be reminded that they are adults and to act accordingly. I'm sorry but purely from your account, they come across as spoiled petulant children.

This is creating a huge burden on you and thst is quite unfair.You are clearly a good son and doing your absolute best.

A friend of mine experienced similar with a close relative who had a long term terminal illness, he was driven to distraction, as were all within his family with constant haranguing and difficult behaviour.

He eventually had to talk to them and explain that their behaviour was making everyone fed up to the point they actively were starting to get worn out with him.

In fairness he corrected and that was the end of that, no one wants to be remembered badly I suppose but you need to put yourself first, by all means of course look after them but they need to help you help them.

Apologies if this seems harsh, its not meant to be.
 
OP I really feel your stress in your posts and I hope we have been of some help. Family ties are very strong and you have been doing a wonderful job. But you also really have to focus on your own future and the life you might have with your partner in a new family unit. It really sounds like you just need a break and it probably feels impossible but I think the last thing your parents need is for you to be ill with stress as well. I wish you well and I hope you can get some support.
 
You have articulated your thoughts very clearly here. Perhaps a family meeting should be called by you to put your position point by point - the problem and the solution. And the negative consequences for all concerned if not implemented. Good luck
 
Hi Throwaway 555 I just couldn't not reply to you when I read your message. I have no financial advice for you as I'm useless with money and you seem to be doing ok with that. I can relate to your family situation. My mam was sick for many years and required full care in the end. She also refused care until things came to a head and it was impossible to go further without help. One of us and a carer had to be there all day. There were 3 of us and we took it in shifts and it nearly killed us. I can totally relate to feeling trapped and trying to keep all the balls in the air with everything else. People mean well but until you're in the situation you can't really understand it. Of course its easy to say that you should run off into the sunset with your girlfriend but that's impossible. You would be wracked with guilt and it just wouldn't be worth it or work out. The only advice I can give you is to try to talk to a therapist - even just for 1 hour a week. You could have a phonecall consult once a week and you could do this on your commute - this would help so much - it helped keep me sane. Also our parents have been the boss's all our lives and its very easy to keep things like that but you need to move away from that. Don't ask your dads permission to do things - like the garden. Get someone in while he's gone to the shops, he might huff and puff about it but once he see's the result then he will get over it. I'm sorry that you find yourself in this position, its difficult but they will eventually relent and let help in as there won't be a way forward. We would have been lost without our wonderful carers who walked through every step of my mams final years with us. I hope my reply helps in some small way, you're not alone - so many people are doing this - please talk to someone for your own sanity. All the best
 
Just a quickie on here - I do read every reply and have been trying to get the time to come back on things. And I will.

Purely on the financial side, work provided a Financial Advisor from IPF and they have suggested a fairly aggressive change in my finances. I plan to go ahead, but just wanted to spot any major red flags.

50k pTSB deposit, 50k AIB deposit
Increase risk rating on my 85k Zurich account
Invest another 85k into Zurich
Leave my 100k in Raisin for now
Invest a further 85k into similarly risked New Life Ireland

Immediately put 18k into an AVC to cover 2025
Take out the biggest possible AVC scheme I can (about 600 gross per 2 weeks)
Work out how much per month I am saving from my wages, keep a little and put the rest (1500-1800 per month) into New Life Ireland.

Its a big change, but should give me much higher earnings than I have now. Especially the AVC, that is extremely lucrative.


The parental and relationship sides of things are a whole different ballgame which I'll try to come back on soon.
 
And what is the rationale/reasoning that they gave you for the "aggressive changes"? I'm not saying that they're wrong but it would be interesting to understand their reasoning. Does it tally or conflict with suggestions made by other posters in this thread so far?
 
"Aggressive Changes" is my wording, not hers!

She feels I could be doing much more with my money and certainly the returns are much better than leaving things in the bank. I know they get paid for saying this - but it does seem more sensible. The AVC is an absolute no brainer; even if the returns are not as good as I was advised, it comes out of your gross wage and doesn't attract CGT or DIRT or anything like that.

AVC: AMC 0.75% from year 2 onwards, higher in year one to cover consultations and advice through to retirement. 2025 lump sum is at 4%, that one does sting.
Investments: 1.35% + 0.25% advice/management fee. 1% government levy covered by them. CGT at 38% exit or 8 year deemed disposal.

Sadly I don't really have the time to manage it all myself.


Earlier in the thread people were saying to get property with my cash but I can't move out at this stage given parents condition and they still won't consider help. At the moment the idea is to aim for early retirement @ 55 (or earlier) and use an income generated from the AVC and Investments to cover me until state pension and health service lumpsum/pension comes though (reduced pro-rata for early retirement of course).

Happily still going out with my girlfriend and she seems happy but I can see issues with any potential moving in with her in the future due the parental thing. Of course I should put her first and I absolutely agree with that sentiment however the practical realities just don't allow that. Watch this space and I'll see if I can do a better update on that in time.
 
AVC: AMC 0.75% from year 2 onwards, higher in year one to cover consultations and advice through to retirement.
How much in year one?
2025 lump sum is at 4%, that one does sting.
Ouch!
Investments: 1.35% + 0.25% advice/management fee.
1.6% seems very high to me.
CGT at 38% exit or 8 year deemed disposal.
That's not CGT. CGT is 33%. 38% 8 yearly deemed disposal and exit tax is a different tax.
Sadly I don't really have the time to manage it all myself.
You might be overestimating the burden of managing investments such as ETFs or unit linked funds etc.?
 
Throwaway555, I only came upon the thread now almost a year into your OP. Whilst I was reading through it I was thinking "Jees there's not a whole lot of time for dedicating to your financial affairs" so I would have been loath to suggest any major adjustments. As I read through the thread I was glad to see you've progressed onto more beneficial returns and one of my suggestions before I reached that point in the thread, would be that you invest heavily to the max possible in AVC's to broaden your early retirement options and maximise your tax relief.

TBH, from my own experience, their are probably more effective, albeit less convenient options than going through IPF, but even that consultation has left you in a much better position financially and less hassle on all fronts is one of the things you need in your life now.

Financially with your own savings and investments and the likely prospect of inheriting your parents estate and having the house as your own PPR down the road (it should be largely if not completely free of inheritance tax, but do ensure both a will and power of attorneys are put in place if they haven't been already) you are pretty well set up and on a good course for early retirement, either by choice or necessity. But be mindful or wary that the stress of the current arrangements doesn't thrust early retirement on you through circumstance or ill health of yourself.

FWIW, I've spent the last two years in a similar (practical only locally available offspring) carer situation as yourself, albeit with my own young family and house a good few miles from my parents and my situation being a fair few years older and more settled than yourself. I was however also in a situation about 20 years ago where I was single and living with them and, whilst they were much younger and able, were still quite dependent on me for lots of things, including possibly the most taxing of all, using me as an emotional crutch (However living with them had considerable benefits for me too). I can sympathise with you and vouch for how taxing this is on your own wellbeing and I would sincerely say, unless things change something has got to give, and if you are not careful it could be your mental health.

I would suggest you need to start making and imposing decisions for the sake of all three of ye, even at the expense of disagreement or discord from either of your parents. I suspect also that their hold over you is greatly facilitated by having you under their roof and at their beck and call constantly and any consideration for living separately, even if it was merely a chalet or a caravan in the garden, (or even alternative accommodation within a few hundred metres of their house) should be seriously considered.

I can appreciate the resistance to any threats on their independence, but equally a lot of that is no longer based on reality or practicality. I got a live in carer for my parents 2 years ago and it only lasted 2 weeks such was the hostility from my mam. She's now much further into dementia and, by exhaustion and necessity on my behalf, we commenced the arrangement again a month ago and happily it's working much better this time although it is a huge adjustment into their lives. As a minimum I would say you need external help for gardening and housekeeping irregardless of the protestations on your dad. I would also suggest as other contributors that you engage as much social services input as you can as regards home helps, meals on wheels and house adaptions (plenty of adaption grants available which cover most if not all the cost of such things as wet rooms, window, roof and gutter repairs/replacements and insulation/energy improvements.)

Get as much help as you can. Be nice to that girl if you decide she is also worth a long term investment (she'll repay you a lot more than your €30k salary differential if she proves to be "the one")

Best of luck and look after yourself and your sanity
 
Would you consider therapy or perhaps life coaching?

I think you need to find some time to think about your priorities.

Your parents had their life. They got married, had their own house and raised you.

While you don’t want kids it seems that you are not able to do the same.

Where would things be if you were married with your own house now, would you be leaving her to move back in?

I appreciate there is always an immediate need.

You need to decide who you put first your girlfriend or parents. Is your girlfriend your new family.

It jumped out at me how you answered the first question counting your parents home as the “family home”.

You seem a little too focused on retirement and perhaps a little too financial tied to your parents.

You also say only two employers but I’m sure you have transferable skills? You might drop 30k.

Also 60k to 90k isn’t a lot especially if room to grow. One move could half that. Ye are just two people with decent salaries.

I guess if she is renting and has normal expenses that’s where the big gap is.
 
Perhaps not - but work are the HSE so you take what you get. They don't have a functioning pensions department unless you are retiring - 9 months to even answer an email - so you take what you get.

So what should improve about the advice given for funds? There is no other way to get an AVC in the HSE as far as I'm aware. Investment is a different matter, yes.
 
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