NoRegretsCoyote
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The €0.50c increase is not an exercise in reducing smokers, it is an exercise in raising revenue. Targeting those who are at the centre of a public health care issue through their addiction.
This is absolute nonsense. The reason for high taxation is to be perceived to be trying to turn people off smokingThat is absolute nonsense. The reason for high taxation is to turn people off smoking.
This is absolute nonsense. The reason for high taxation is to be perceived to be trying to turn people off smoking
while increasing the state coffers.
What I think is neither 'here nor there'.Do you think the government want people smoking so they can collect loads of money?
This is absolute nonsense. The reason for high taxation is to be perceived to be trying to turn people off smoking
while increasing the state coffers.
Well we know it is definitely achieving one !It can and will achieve both objectives
Rather typical of the righteousness dripping from this thread. Smokers endanger their own health and maybe to a small degree those close to them. But carbon guzzlers who drive cars and use airplane travel are endangering whole generations. Smokers should take no lectures except of course from those who ride bicycles to work and go for a walk in the park for leisure rather than take cheap flights to the Canaries.No sympathy at all for people smoking.
My good man, I smoked for years. I lost my father and three brothers to cancer. I had good reason to stop and did it without artificial help. Death has a way of prioritising things in my opinion.Rather typical of the righteousness dripping from this thread. Smokers endanger their own health and maybe to a small degree those close to them. But carbon guzzlers who drive cars and use airplane travel are endangering whole generations. Smokers should take no lectures except of course from those who ride bicycles to work and go for a walk in the park for leisure rather than take cheap flights to the Canaries.
Rather typical of the righteousness dripping from this thread. Smokers endanger their own health and maybe to a small degree those close to them. But carbon guzzlers who drive cars and use airplane travel are endangering whole generations. Smokers should take no lectures except of course from those who ride bicycles to work and go for a walk in the park for leisure rather than take cheap flights to the Canaries.
Actually being a fattie kills more people than smoking in the developed world. They call it "having a bad diet" but they mean being fat. If we are really interested in public health we'd be taxing high sugar and high salt foods.Smoking is the leading cause of preventable deaths in Ireland and most countries around the world.
Air pollution is also linked to autism, dementia, mental illness, cancer and many other illnesses.There is something in what you say.
According to [broken link removed] report in The Lancet Planetary Health, four million children develop asthma every year as a result of air pollution from cars and trucks, equivalent to 11,000 new cases a day.
Higher tax has little to no impact on smoking levels. ...... Increasing tax is purely a revenue raising measure. And it's not even that because as mentioned above, people will get their cigarettes elsewhere.
A meta-analysis examined 523 estimates of price effects and confirmed the conventional wisdom that a 10% increase in cigarette prices leads to a 4% decline in smoking. Half of the 4% decline typically comes from declines in smoking prevalence and half from decreased consumption.
We can't stop people from travelling and we can't tax products bought in the EU but we can seek to reduce the amount of tobacco bought in Ireland.OK let's increase the price of 20 fags to €30.00 or even €50.00 or even €100.00. It doesn't matter. The vast majority of people who smoke are smoking cigarettes bought abroad and lining the coffers in tax of the country in which they were purchased. Ireland gets nothing other than cancer victims and the medical bills.
Reduce the price of cigarettes here and let's gather some tax rather than none. A little earned is always better than nothing.
The vast majority of people who smoke are smoking cigarettes bought abroad
The vast majority of people who smoke are smoking cigarettes bought abroad ................
This is simply not true. From a big survey article of the science of smoking prevelance:
Assuming linearity, the 50% increase seen in cigarette prices in the last decade has seen smoking fall by 20%.
I wouldn't call that "little to no impact" by any means.
What are the figures in Ireland for the past few years?
I googled "Ireland smoking prevalance" and got here.
Cigarette smoking fallen from about 27% to 18% over the last 10 years.
There are lots of factors at play, but only a fool would say that increased excise rates have not had in impact.
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