Re: For sale signs in car windows.

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RonanC

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I was driving home from Ennis to Dublin last nite and got caught up in the traffic in Limerick after the match. A Senior looking Garda came over to my car as I was stopped in the traffic and told me that I could get a €250 on the spot fine for that. I asked for what exactly ? He told me for having the for sale signs up on my car. I am currently trying to sell my car and put up some A4 size for sale signs in the rear passenger windows. I was in shock and he told me to take them down immediately !! I said I would when I got around the corner and parked up. He then said no do it now or you will be charged and could be prosecuted up to €2500 under blah blah section of the road traffic act.

I nearly fell out of the car at this stage. He then put his hand into my car and pulled off one of the signs and then said get the other one off now.

What is the story here? I will be making a call to the Dep. of whoever deals with this kind of thing.
 
Don't know if it's related Ronan but wasn't there something a while back about these signs being suspected of featuring coded references to boy racer type meetings? If that is still suspected, I would imagine that 'performance' cars would be maybe suspicious to gardaí?

Whether the for sale sign complaint is a smokescreen for what they really believe or a genuine violation, I don't know
 
AFAIK They have been illegal to advertise a car for sale *on the side of the road* for a few years, but this is all a quick goggle can find:

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There is also a law on how much of a windscreen can be covered up.
 
"put up some A4 size for sale signs in the rear passenger windows."

I do'nt know the law but I would imagine that this would be very dangerous from a visibility point of view.

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Billo said:
"put up some A4 size for sale signs in the rear passenger windows."

I do'nt know the law but I would imagine that this would be very dangerous from a visibility point of view.

Rgds
Billo
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How can it be dangerous?? I cant really see out these windows from the drivers seat !!

The for sale signs are not on the rear window or the front windows. Only the Side rear windows.
 
RonanC said:
How can it be dangerous?? I cant really see out these windows from the drivers seat !!

The for sale signs are not on the rear window or the front windows. Only the Side rear windows.
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I'm not clear on the law with regard to putting up these signs, but even if you have broken a law you should still be treated courteously by the gardai. In these situations i believe you should remain courteous, but just ask politely for the guards ID number. That way you can make a formal complaint about his behaviour afterwards through the proper channels. I find the same thing whenever stopped by gardai - they seem to adopt a 'smart alec' attitude, which really bugs me. Lately been stopped for making an illegal left turn as the sign was turned the wrong way so it was invisible to drivers, the guard was practically calling me blind, should not be driving etc. if I couldn't read the road signs - i was raging but knew not to argue - have no problem with being caught doing somethnig wrong, but there is no need for the attitude they adopt.
 
I'd like to see what Road Traffic Act he was going on about.

I have sun blinds on the rear passenger windows that would probably cause as much obstruction....no law against them.
 
It is illegal to have a vehicle for sale on a public highway.

The law is often broken however, this particular Garda was probably having a bad day!
 
The legal aspects were one issue, common courtesy & manners are a separate issue. Just because he has a uniform and a shine badge on his head doesnt give him the right to act the way he did. I think 900TS made a good point on this.
 
I thought the for sale signs were indicators (to undesirables) of a willingness to race?
 
RS2K said:
I thought the for sale signs were indicators (to undesirables) of a willingness to race?
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Very interesting, didn't know that. Explains why a lot of boy racer looking bangers have For Sale signs in the windows
 
RS2K said:
I thought the for sale signs were indicators (to undesirables) of a willingness to race?
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Yes. I referred to this above - there was a feature about this on The Last Word a few months back - the garda being interviewed firmly believed that this was the case.
 
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JMR said:
Explains why a lot of boy racer looking bangers have For Sale signs in the windows
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Also (possibly) explains some of the "For Sale" signs with no contact details (or price etc.) which up until now had me slightly baffled.
 
So does this mean that I must remove the sticker on my car from where I bought it? - yeah right. I wouldn't be long taking his badge number and getting on to the garda ombudsman.
 
JMR said:
It is illegal to have a vehicle for sale on a public highway.

The law is often broken however, this particular Garda was probably having a bad day!
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This sounds wrong - do you have a reference to the specific law?
 
JMR said:
It is illegal to have a vehicle for sale on a public highway.

The law is often broken however, this particular Garda was probably having a bad day!
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afaik, it was only for cars that were parked on the side of the road and at junctions etc, where they would cause an obstruction or distract drivers... but not too sure when it was being enforced from.. sounded like th guard was having a bad day...
 
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Wonder what the position is on the for sale stickers these guys send out to users www.carsireland.ie Have seen on a few cars and their clear vinyl so I suppose they don't reduce visibility by as much as an a4 poster.
 
tosullivan said:
I'd like to see what Road Traffic Act he was going on about.

I have sun blinds on the rear passenger windows that would probably cause as much obstruction....no law against them.
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Forget the law...what about common sense?
If these sun blinds cause an obstruction you're endangering yourself and others which is outrageous.
 
KalEl said:
Forget the law...what about common sense?
If these sun blinds cause an obstruction you're endangering yourself and others which is outrageous.
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They don't cause an obstruction, they are on the rear passenger windows
 
What about vans that have no rear passenger windows at all, are these "outrageous"? Should they all be banned?

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