tomthumb said:Groups of 15/20 cyclists 5/6 abreast are a danger to all other road users and pedestrians.
Brendan said:I cycle up Howth Head occasionally on a Sunday. It is very dangerous due to the speed of cars. I think it would be a great idea to bar cars occasionally from such places to allow families to cycle safely.
Please observe the or desist from posting.tomthumb said:"Force drivers who would otherwise not do so to slow down"!! Are you joking??? What right have they to make hundreds of cars and others go at 30/40 kmp in a 80 kmp zone? Cylists are the police? Sure!! Cop on extopia!
ClubMan said:Speaking as a sometime cyclist (less regular than years ago) I have to say that it seems like the vast majority of cyclists simply don't observe most of the rules of the road (e.g. signalling when turning, stopping at red lights and Yield signals etc.) and are a danger to themselves, other road users and pedestrians. I used to know and cycle with many amateur racing and touring cyclists and many of them were unbelievably irresponsible on the road. Almost as bad as some less "serious" commuter cyclists that we all see every day. I read something in todays Indo about the Dublin Cycling Campaign calling HVG trucks in the city serial killers of cyclists which is simply ridiculous on so many levels and hardly conducive to people taking the campaign seriously.
Yes.Gordanus said:Um, I'm guessing but would I be right in saying most of the cyclists you're referring to would be young men?
To say that they are "responsible" or, worse still, for the DCC to call them serial killers suggests an element of negligence or, worse still, deliberate intent on their part which I cannot accept is necessarily the case.On the second point, the HGV drivers are indeed responsible for quite a few cyclist deaths, especially along the quays.