Stamp duty on site (Not connected to building agreement)

johnnybegood

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Hi all,

Have been through the numerous posts regarding this topic and as far as i can surmise the following relates to my brother as he is in this position:

My brother is a FTB. He wishes to purchase a site from a neighbour for circa €250k. Unfortuntaly this will be subject to SD at 9% (regardless of the fact he is FTB as it is deemed to be non residential) as there is no connected agreement to build a house.

My question is this, if the neighbour was to sell him the house on the condition that he builds the house with X builder (Known to both parties) does this get him around the SD issue in that it is now a purchase of a site in connection with an agreement to build a house?

My brother intends to live in the house and it will be his PPR. Seems very unfair if he gets stuck with SD of approx €20k +

Thanks for any input. Much appreciated.

Johnnybegood :)
 
Not 100% sure of the answer to your question but we did purchase a serviced site with planning last year (although it wasn't full planning, i.e. we had to design our own house, apply for planning etc.) and we still had to pay the full SD @ 9% so the fact that the site was sold for once off building purposes didn't make the SD dissappear. HTH.
 
This is an interesting question. The relevant section is s.29 of the Stamp Duties Consolidation Act 1999 which says
where, in connection with, or as part of any arrangement involving, a sale of any land, a dwellinghouse or apartment has been built, or is in the course of being built, or is to be built, on that land, any instrument whereby such sale is effected shall be chargeable to stamp duty under the heading “CONVEYANCE or TRANSFER on sale of any property other than stocks or marketable securities or a policy of insurance or a policy of life insurance” in Schedule 1, as if the property concerned were residential property on an amount equal to the aggregate of—
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/(a) any consideration paid in respect of the sale of that land, and
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/(b) any consideration paid, or to be paid, in respect of the building of the dwellinghouse or apartment on that land.
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/(3) Without prejudice to the generality of subsection (2), a dwellinghouse or apartment shall be regarded as having been built or being in the course of being built or to be built in connection with, or as part of any arrangement involving, a sale of any land where building has commenced prior to the execution of any instrument effecting the sale.
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/(4) (a) Where in the case of any instrument of sale to which this section applies, the aggregate consideration to which subsection (2) relates cannot, in the opinion of the Commissioners, be ascertained at the date on which the instrument is presented for stamping, then the instrument shall be chargeable to stamp duty as if the amount of the aggregate consideration which is chargeable under subsection (2) was equal to 10 times the unencumbered open market value of the land at the date of the instrument of sale or to such lower multiple, not being less than 5, of the open market value of the land as the Commissioners consider appropriate having regard to the relevant information available to them.
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/(b) Where it is shown to the satisfaction of the Commissioners that the amount of the stamp duty paid under this subsection exceeded the stamp duty with which the instrument would have been charged under subsection (2) had the aggregate consideration paid or to be paid in respect of the dwellinghouse or apartment been ascertainable at the date of stamping of the instrument, then the amount of such excess stamp duty shall, on an application to the Commissioners within 3 years after the date of stamping of the instrument, be repaid to the person or persons by whom the stamp duty was paid and such repayment shall bear simple interest at the rate of 0.5 per cent, or such other rate (if any) as stands prescribed by the Minister by regulations, for each month or part of a month from the date of payment of the excess duty up until the date of such repayment and income tax shall not be deductible on payment of interest under this subsection and such interest shall not be reckoned in computing income for the purposes of the Tax Acts.
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/(5) For the purpose of determining whether this section shall apply to any instrument, the Commissioners may require the delivery to them, in such form as they may specify, of a statement or a statutory declaration by—
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/(a) any person directly or indirectly concerned with the sale of the land or with the building of a dwellinghouse or apartment on the land, and
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/(b) any solicitor acting on behalf of any person to whom paragraph (a) relates,
http://www.askaboutmoney.com/of any facts which the Commissioners consider relevant in making any such determination.

It goes on to say that persons making incorrect statements to the Revenue can be prosecuted and fined or even imprisoned.

My feeling is that unless there is a genuine financial arrangement between the vendor of the site and the builder whereby the vendor is forcing the purchaser to build with this particular builder that this section does not apply and to say otherwise would be an offence.

Personally I think that people buying sites to build on should be able to apply for say FTB exemptions or other exemptions just like a buyer of a house would be but that's a matter to complain to your TD about.
 
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