Quantitative Easing - Why is it damaging our society and what can be done to fix it?

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Quantitative Easing (QE)

– Why is it damaging our society and what can be done to fix it?

What is Quantitative Easing?

Quantitative Easing (QE) is a monetary policy used by some central banks to increase the supply of money. It usually involves both a direct increase in the money supply and a knock-on effect from the fractional reserve system. QE is usually implemented by a central bank first crediting its own account with money it creates out of nothing (“ex nihilo”). It then purchases financial assets, for example, government bonds, quasi-government debt, mortgage-backed securities and corporate bonds, from banks and other financial institutions in a process referred to as “open market operations”.

In short, QE is printing money, and using the money to buy different types of bonds, typically government bonds.

What is Quantitative Easing supposed to achieve?

QE is supposed to provide an economic stimulus to increase economic growth, to increase employment and to increase inflation (to combat deflation).

Buying bonds causes bond prices to go up, which lowers bond yields, which should lower longer-term interest rates – making borrowing cheaper and so stimulating the economy.

As bonds are purchased by central banks, more money should flow into circulation. Banks are assumed to get more deposits from the new money created and are assumed to sell some of their bonds giving them more money and liquidity in place of these bonds. This extra money available to banks should help banks provide additional lending into the economy boosting economic growth.

What has Quantitative Easing achieved in the US and the UK?

The US and the UK have pursued QE policies in recent years. Their economies have recovered, albeit in an unequal way. Wage growth has been low, but corporate profits have been buoyant, aided by lower interest rates and wealth effects from rising asset prices. Despite money printing, inflation rates in the US and the UK are still low and QE does not seem to have increased inflationary expectations to any significant extent.

Quantitative Easing in the EU

The US and the UK economies have outperformed the EU which remains in recession. The EU has just launched a QE policy which is supposed to stimulate the European economy and to combat deflation in the EU. Some are concerned about the QE policy, particularly in Germany which has a history of hyperinflation which was caused by excessive money printing.


How does Quantitative Easing work? What are the mechanics of it?

Quantitative Easing works as follows

1) The central bank print money, increasing the amount of money in the economy.

2) They use it to buy certain types of bonds, forcing up the price of these bonds, lowering bond yields and making profits for those who own these bonds.

3) Those who sold the bonds typically use the money to buy other types of bonds, for example corporate bonds, forcing up the prices of corporate bonds and making profits for those who own the corporate bonds.

4) Those who sold the corporate bonds, typically buy other types of assets to replace their bonds, forcing up the prices of those assets and making profits for those who own them.

5) A general shortage of corporate bonds is created. The excess demand for corporate bonds causes corporate bond yields to drop to low levels making corporate bonds less attractive to investors. This makes other investments relatively more attractive, e.g. equities.

6) Money goes into buying equities, forcing up equity prices, making profits for those who own equities.

7) Money also goes into buy property, similarly forcing up prices and making profits for those who own property.

8) Lower corporate bond yields make it attractive to companies to issue more corporate bonds (making borrowing easier and cheaper for large companies), enabling them to raise cheap capital on the financial markets. This enables companies to use this money to buy back shares, further forcing up equity prices (and the value of the directors stock options) and making further profits for those who own equities.

All these profits make those who have assets (those relatively better off) much more relatively better off. The profits create a significant wealth effect which stimulates the economy.

Those with relatively smaller amounts of assets also gain. But they have fewer assets in the first place, so they gain proportionately less. Those who have no assets get nothing.

The poor are supposed to gain from ‘trickle-down effects’ because governments can borrow at lower interest rates. But, offsetting this, governments are likely to need more money for social expenditure to combat the rising inequality. The ‘trickle-down effects’ might be compared to ‘crumbs from the rich man’s table’. All-in-all QE should directly increase inequality in society.

What effect will QE have on ordinary members of the public?

Assets prices will rise.

- If you have shares or other investments, these should have risen in value.

- If you have property, it should have risen in value.

- If you have a pension fund, the value of the assets in the fund should have risen.

The more assets that you have the more you will have gained. Those with the most gain the most. But relatively speaking, everybody becomes poorer than those who were richer than them in the first place. If you have no assets you will have gained nothing and have become relatively much poorer.

Pension funds are likely to see the expected cost of providing pensions in the future to have risen due to lower bond yields. Pension fund assets will have risen, but their liabilities may have risen by more than their assets reducing their funding levels and putting more pressure on pension schemes to close down.

If your employer becomes more profitable, some of this may trickle-down to you, but much less than your employer is getting.

If you are self-employed and your customers are the relatively rich, you will likely see business improve. If your customers are relatively poor, you will likely to see very little upturn in business.

What effect is QE likely to have on lending and interest rates?

QE is supposed to lower interest rates and give banks more liquidity so that they can lend more money to individuals and to businesses to stimulate the economy and create more employment.

However, banks will only lend to customers who they consider will be able to repay their loans. The extent to which they lend the additional money available to them, rather than purchasing other types of bonds, will depend on borrowers’ creditworthiness. The only customers likely to be sufficiently more creditworthy are the relatively better of, who have been made better off by QE. The increase in lending driven by QE will mostly just improve credit availability to the better off, with only ‘trickle-down effects’ for other borrowers.

Those on tracker mortgages will have seen their mortgage interest rates come down as the ECB cut interest rates, but will see no impact from QE. Interest rates on other mortgages and other personal loans are supposed to fall. But mortgage rates and personal loan rates are mostly being kept high to offset loses than banks are making on tracker mortgages. Lower tracker rates means less scope for banks to cut other interest rates.

Effect on inflation

The dangers of deflation are often put forward as one of the main reasons for QE.

However, QE is unlikely to significantly increase inflation. This is because better off individuals mostly spend their money on different types of goods and services than less well-off individuals, and since the CPI is mainly based on goods bought by the less well-off, and since the less well-off are really no better off (and relatively worse off) the CPI is unlikely to increase. This lack of increase in inflation may be used to argue for more QE, but in doing so is missing the point.

This is consistent with what has happened in the US and the UK. Despite enormous amounts of QE, inflation has been muted (albeit assets prices have ballooned and asset prices are not counted in CPI).


Effect on economic growth

As QE makes the better off even more better off, it is likely to lead to higher incomes for the better off, thereby increasing economic growth. The impact on the poor will be marginal. Those who gain employment will gain but stagnant wage growth limits any significant benefits. The benefits to the less well-off are mostly limited to trickle-down impacts.

However, the less well-off will suffer because the types of goods which the better off buy, which the less well-off also aim to buy, will rise in value, pushing them further beyond their horizons.

The end effect of QE is economic growth fuelled by big increases in incomes for the better off, offsetting stagnant incomes of the less well-off. The growth numbers might be called into question as they are discounted by CPI, which does not include the rising cost of assets. So in ‘real’ terms the growth figures may not be as real as they are made out to be.

Making the rich richer

In summary, the main effect of QE is to make the relatively rich richer, both directly and indirectly. The rich gain immediately from rising asset prices fuelled by the bond purchases. They also gain from improved credit availability and from lower interest rates.

The gains for the poor are mostly negligible and indirect. The media, which is typically owned by the richer elements of society, usually makes a big deal about reductions in the costs of borrowing for governments. These are the governments who have significant debts due to bailing out banks in the financial crisis.

The complicated nature of QE means that most of the public seem to be unaware that the rich are getting much richer and there has been no real public protest about QE policies.

Dangerous asset bubbles

A further problem with QE is that it is creating a bubble in the bond markets and a bubble in the equities market. Asset prices have frequently risen sharply on bad economic news in recent years as this has been a signal that more QE might be on the way, so more asset purchasing. Assets prices risk being artificially stimulated to levels above their long term fair-values. These types of bubbles usually last as long as the money printing (QE) is happening, but they usually end badly for society. And the less well-off will usually pay the price for them.

Philosophical background

The philosophy behind QE is that of neo-liberalism and the philosophy of Ayn Rand. Rand’s philosophy considered the ‘little guys’ to be mostly irrelevant and relatively worthless compared to ‘type-A’ individuals. She considered that without ‘type-A’ individuals there would be no employers, no managers etc, so no jobs for the ‘little guys’. So the ‘little guys’ should be grateful for anything that they get. This philosophy is very attractive to the strong in society who are happy to brutally seek wealth and power or who are just willing to turn a blind eye – it gives them a moral defence to their actions. The philosophy has a seeming truth to it, but the seeming truth is used to entrap those who read it.

According to Rand’s philosophy, if lots of small guys get hurt (or relatively hurt) for the benefit of ‘type-A’ individuals, well then that’s not such a bad thing – it will make everybody better off (the seeming truth but really the lie that advocates much greater inequality).

References:

“The Fountainhead” and “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand

“Capitalism - the Unknown Ideal” by Ayn Rand, Alan Greenspan et al (1967)

Note: Alan Greenspan, former US Federal Reserve Chairman, advocated Rand’s philosophy and the philosophy is an influential force in current world political elites.

How to fix it?


Two immediate things can be done to fix the problems being created by QE:


1) Tax profits on the financial assets impacted by QE: on a mark-to-market basis (not on a realised basis), at say 25% of any capital appreciation since 2009 (since QE began).


2) Use the money to invest in education, to improve public services, health, to encourage real enterprise and to improve the social fabric of the state.

A braver option would be taxing 75% of the profits (these profits are effectively free money given to the rich) and redistribute the money across society in a more productive manner.

Likely impact

Those who own assets will have to sell some of their assets to pay the tax. This should lead to lower asset prices as they begin to sell – and should stop the current bubbles growing further.

Lower asset prices also mean greater capacity of the less well-off to buy and to be able to aspire to buy these assets (including property).

Conclusion

Quantitative Easing is white-collar financial corruption on a grand scale. It sells the integrity of our financial system for short term gain – and gives these gains to the better off. It needs to be stopped and the redistributive effects reversed.
 
Hi Colm

That's a great piece and explains it very well. I might come back on some of the more political issues, but a few questions

Although, I don't know enough about the topic, I am very uneasy about Q.E. I can't see how it gets reversed without doing huge damage.

1) As someone invested in shares, I am delighted to see how the prices have gone up because there is so much money sloshing around the system after Q.E. But I don't see why the companies I have invested in , say CRH, Ryanair, DCC, should be any more profitable as a result. You say "corporate profits have been buoyant, aided by lower interest rates". But are interest rates in the Euro area not at rock bottom anyway? Will CRH be able to refinance its debt at lower rates?
 
Thanks Brendan

QE has resulted in narrowing corporate bond spreads - that is, it has reduced the credit spreads / yield premiums over goverment bond yields paid by corporate entities that issue debt. With German bond yields at historic lows (they went below Japanese bond yields yesterday) and credit spreads at historical lows, companies mostly have never had it so good from the point of view of being able to borrow money (which is good for their share prices). That said this is mostly true for larger corporate entities, and less so for smaller ones without easy access to financial capital markets.

Furthermore, corporate entities are mostly using money raised on their corporate bond issuance to buyback their own shares - forcing up their share prices (even further). Take for example, Apple. Apple have a huge amount of cash on their balance sheet, and could be argued not the need any more, yet they are issuing debt.... for share buybacks!
http://seekingalpha.com/news/2263206-apple-plans-5b-debt-offering?source=bloomberg

I'm not necessarily calling for a reversal of QE - just to the redistributive elements of it. There is political buy-in, mostly in the absence of any other alternatives. However, I do not think that political figures understand the very significant redistributive effects of QE, the damage that these cause and the asset bubbles created. A policy of QE, along with redistributive policies could be quite popular amongst the electorate, as long as they realise that any tax effect on them would effectively make them better off compared to those who are better off than they are, and actually makes their dreams and aspirations more attainable.

The practicalities of any taxation would need a lot of work - but even if a proportion of the gains were taxed it would raise substantial funds.

Outright printing of money is probably better than printing money and giving it proportionally to the rich. QE might be regarded as regressive money printing, the worst kind! Money printing is generally not considered to be a good thing. Unfortunately we are at the party stage of the regressive money printing, so very few seem to be sober enough to see the problems being created.
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QE isn't money printing in the traditional sense of introducing new money permanently into the economy. The assets purchased by the Central Banks will eventually be sold again, and the proceeds used to extinguish the debt created when the money was brought into existence. QE was conceived as a way to grease the wheels of the economy without the old inflationary dangers of creating fiat money -- any inflation resulting from QE is hoped to be the result of growth in the real economy, brought on by businesses' easier access to credit.

Unfortunately, as the OP points out, there's no strong evidence that it has worked. Those arguing for it say that things would have been much worse than they are now had QE not occurred, and use the contrast between the US and Europe as evidence. But it certainly looks like most of the new money has gone into creating asset bubbles instead of productive uses. You have the perverse fact that whenever the end of QE is mooted, instead of seeing it as a sign of the economy recovering the markets take fright and equities plunge. Meanwhile, negative news for the economy such as bad tax revenue or jobs figures are taken as a sign that QE will have to be continued, and the markets surge.

IMHO, anybody invested in equities right now should be cognisant of the role of QE in buoying up the markets since 2009, and should consider that all the air will come back out when QE ends ... if it ever does: the US Fed seems to have created something of a monster that it's going to have trouble killing off. Now we have the prospect of the same thing happening in Europe.

I don't see the point of taxing gains from assets, especially not on a mark-to-market basis ... as I said, I think investors will get fleeced when QE ends so taxing them on unrealised gains will just make things worse. Also, do you try to distinguish between assets which increased in value because of "fundamentals" versus ones that benefitted from the general exuberance? You could be just compounding one nightmare of government interference with another. It would be better to have just dished out inflationary "helicopter money" (to use Bernanke's term) in the first place. On the other hand, seeing as QE did happen ... we're in a bit of a bind as to what to do next.
 
It's unlikely the QE will be reversed. I dont think there is a precedent either.

Giving an economy heroin to 'grease the wheels' certainly will get an economy going in the short term, but ultimately it only leads to a heroin addiction.

Best option, after taking heroin for a period of 5 years, is to try to put the patient on methadone - and methadone in this case is QE with marginal taxation of asset price gains. Without stating the obvious, this taxation would then need to be used in a progressive and productive manner, otherwise the whole process could become regressive. Easier said than done.
 
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Hi Colm

I got called away in the middle of my first post.

I understand the impact of QE on increasing the demand for and price of shares.

But has there not also been genuine economic growth in the UK and the USA, whereas there has been none in the Eurozone, apart from Ireland?
 
Best option, after taking heroin for a period of 5 years, is to try to put the patient on metadone (spelling?? I'm not an expert on drugs!) - and metadone in this case is QE with marginal taxation of asset price gains.

I still don't see how you can tax unrealised gains. Taxation isn't implemented uniformly anyway, so you would have huge money flows between countries. Or, investors would simply bail out, asset prices would tank, and there wouldn't be any unrealised gains to tax.

Would the right approach not be to announce a definite end to QE and stick to your guns regardless of the reaction? The results would probably not be pretty, but where's the madness going to end otherwise? -- it surely can't be healthy that the "real" economy is becoming a sideshow.

But has there not also been genuine economic growth in the UK and the USA, whereas there has been none in the Eurozone, apart from Ireland?

Anaemic growth, perhaps, for trillions of dollars of expenditure which by rights must be reversed some time.
 
The Central Bank of Ireland will be doing its share of Q.E. So the CBI will issue create electronic money and use it to buy Irish government bonds.

The Irish government will pay the interest on these bonds to the CBI instead of to the pension funds which previously owned them.

The CBI will thus be even more profitable and the government will be able to put those profits into the Exchequer.

Is that not good for all taxpayers? Of course, it might be better for the rich as they pay the bulk of the taxes anyway.

Brendan
 
The Central Bank of Ireland will be doing its share of Q.E. So the CBI will issue create electronic money and use it to buy Irish government bonds.

The Irish government will pay the interest on these bonds to the CBI instead of to the pension funds which previously owned them.

The CBI will thus be even more profitable and the government will be able to put those profits into the Exchequer.

Is that not good for all taxpayers? Of course, it might be better for the rich as they pay the bulk of the taxes anyway.

Brendan
There's no net gain from the CBI receiving interest paid by the government. But meanwhile the bond prices have gone up and the previous holders who have made money from them -- the banks and pension funds -- will put the money they have received into riskier assets like equities (and not, as was supposed to happen, into lending into the real economy -- they consider that a riskier bet, for good reason).
 
EU QE is more risky than US QE
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102376195
The US bought bonds at much higher yields (and much lower prices) than will be the case for the EU. The EU will be buying bonds at NEGATIVE yields (so will lose money buy holding some of them) and at very high prices. This means they could LOSE money on QE (if bond prices fall). Would the governments have to bail them out then? (QE = financial corruption).
 
Given the sharp increases in asset prices and the significantly higher money supply, US and UK growth could be considered "money illusion" rather than real growth. If rich individuals get lots of profits from money printing and they spend it, economic growth goes up. But ultimately, everyone is relatively less well-off as they own a smaller proportion of the overall pie. So the 'growth' is not as 'real' as it is made out to be!
 
There's no net gain from the CBI receiving interest paid by the government.

I don't understand why? At the moment the government is paying the interest to pension funds, so it's leaving the Exchequer "umbrella". If the CBI buys the bonds, they will be getting the interest. But they are within the umbrella.
 
QE isn't money printing in the traditional sense of introducing new money permanently into the economy. The assets purchased by the Central Banks will eventually be sold again, and the proceeds used to extinguish the debt created when the money was brought into existence. QE was conceived as a way to grease the wheels of the economy without the old inflationary dangers of creating fiat money -- any inflation resulting from QE is hoped to be the result of growth in the real economy, brought on by businesses' easier access to credit.


This is a very interesting point.

In the old days, the Central Banks actually printed notes. Presumably this is of no significance any more?

So if the ECB wants to increase the money supply, why don't they simply decrease the reserve requirements? Or would that be in conflict with all the recent increases in solvency ratios?

Which brings me to another point. If the commercial banks sell their bonds for cash, so that they lend that cash to businesses, does it not make the lending less prudent? For example, the Irish mortgage banks will argue that they could lend a lot more money if there were any demand for it?

Brendan
 
I still don't see how you can tax unrealised gains.
Why not? (I'm not advocating it - just asking!).
Don't we already have that in the form of, say, pension levy (on the gross fund - not just gains) and - more to the point - the 8 yearly taxation of unrealised gains/deemed disposals on unit linked funds?
 
Very interesting OP. I broadly accept Colm's description of QE and its transmission effects. It was Bernanke who quipped that QE works in practice but not in theory, so against that background I am certainly not going to attempt to provide a theoretical justification.

Where I would take issue with Colm is in the tone of his socio political criticism of QE. We must be careful here to avoid begrudgery politics, which in its extreme would prefer the poor not to improve their lot if that involves improving the rich even to a greater extent. We must also be careful in using terms like the rich are relatively better off than the poor are. A rich man who sees his assets grow by 25% has in one sense seen a much greater improvement than the unemployed man who has found a job, but in human relative terms the latter is probably the much more appreciative of the improvement.

An objective of QE is to bring back inflation. As someone who lived through double digit inflation I am still trying to get my head around that but by Colm's analysis any inflation is likely to come from the rich man's spending. So luxury goods will increase in value whilst food prices won't, this seems a very virtuous, or to use Colm's expression, "progressive" form of inflation to me and I don't see why Colm sees wickedness in such a development. Colm talks about assets being priced beyond the poor man. Does he mean that the poor man will find gilts, corporate bonds and equities even more beyond his reach?

Colm uses the term re-distributitive a lot. It is suggestive of a transfer of wealth from one section of the population to another. That is not what is happening. In a paper on the Distributive Effects of QE by the BoE back in 2012, it observed that the only losers from the policy were households with deposit wealth who saw their interest rates fall, but as the paper points out they lost much more on this score from the more conventional monetary instrument of reducing Bank rate to near zero.

It is true that there has been a significant wealth effect which affects directly only a minority of households. But this is on paper. It is not a transfer of wealth from one section of society to another. The BoE estimated that the QE program of £325bn increased the paper wealth of the population by £600bn. But this does not mean that there was a wealth transfer of £325bn or for that matter £600bn. The BoE had got gilts in return for this monetary injection. Undoubtedly somewhat overpriced, but by how much? 5% let's say. £15bn to make people feel £600bn better off is nearly worth it in its own right and the knock-on impact (trickle down smacks of Reagan/Thatcher) on the economy should not be so lightly dismissed. Colm's suggestion that this £600bn should be subject to a £450bn tax redistribution to the poor highlights the error of his premise that the £600bn was a redistribution from the poor to the rich in the first place.
 
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This is a very intricate subject. 'Works in practice but not in theory' seems like a good description.

I can't accept that everyone is a winner though. There has to be losers.

My theoretical interpretation of QE is that it was actually a tax on the rich (via lower return on savings and higher inflation) to encourage them to spend money. The poor should not be affected - when you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to lose!

The short term reality is that the wealthy appear better off on paper in nominal terms and the poor are no worse off. This can't be true though. What could the explanation be?

1) The asset bubble appears to make the wealthy better off, but they are not as their investment income is unchanged.

So if all the money simply flows into inflated asset prices, nothing has really changed for anyone, rich or poor.

2) Without QE we would have had deflation, so in real terms asset values are unchanged.

It may appear that QE has had no inflationary impacts, but if some of the additional money flows into the economy and prices remain unchanged, then maybe QE has reduced deflation we would otherwise have had. So no QE, Deflation and stable asset prices can be compared to QE, no deflation and increased asset prices. These amount to the same thing in real terms, and nobody gains in reality.

So if 1) and 2) are true, it suggests the main benefits of QE are around the incorrect perception by people that they are better off in real terms. A deflationary environment is a unique opportunity to give the impression something has been created out of nothing.
 
As I understand it QE is the equivalent of a blood transfusion to a sick patient. There is insufficient blood/money to feed all of the veins in the body which it needs to operate at full efficiency. By inputting this transfusion the body is restored to health and subsequently over time the additional blood can be released back without any ill effects. Liquidity is the money that feeds the economy and all businesses. Without this liquidity (generated through the banking system) we have a stagnant economy. The difficulty with QE is that unlike the heart which will fairly distribute the blood to where it is needed we will be reliant on the banking sector to pump the additional funds towards businesses that will grow both sales and ultimately employment. This is where I have my reservations. Surely QE should be accompanied by some form of oversight of funds usage.
I previously did some project work for the World Bank where funds were advanced to banks in underdeveloped countries. These funds were advanced on a conditional basis that they were lent on to the SME sector. A project team was sent to the banks to monitor usage of the funds and ensure that they were going into the right sectors and due diligence was properly applied in advancing the new loans. Surely this should also be applied to the QE funds. If not there is a significant danger of them (in Ireland anyway) being used to feed a housing bubble. Despite all of the changes that have been promised, we still have a significant deficit of good business sector assessors/underwriters in the banking sector.
 
Derkaiser I'm with you all the way.

It all seems a bit of a confidence trick - but let's not dismiss it for that, economics is often about confidence. If the problem is one of deflation then it is because the well off in society are not spending enough - the less well off are presumably spending every last cent they have to begin with - no need to stimulate their demand.

If a feel good wealth effect leads to that increased spending then the deflation problem might be addressed.

Colm's argument that this is a massive transfer from the less well off to the more well off just doesn't stack up. As to taxing unrealised gains that should be only a timing thing, a one off tax take to be given back in future. It would be a serious delusion to think that this could be used to boost fiscal expenditure. That hostage to fortune would quickly come back to bite as the one-off passes and has to be repaid.
 
As to taxing unrealised gains that should be only a timing thing, a one off tax take to be given back in future. It would be a serious delusion to think that this could be used to boost fiscal expenditure.
As I've already said we already have this - e.g. the 8 year taxation of paper gains on unit linked funds.
I don't know to what extent but I presume that this does boost the state's coffers allowing it to be spent elsewhere?

A question to the original poster - if QE is so bad then what is your preferred alternative?
 
So if the ECB wants to increase the money supply, why don't they simply decrease the reserve requirements? Or would that be in conflict with all the recent increases in solvency ratios?
Boss you are going to have to throw out that old economics book:confused: My understanding is that the money supply doesn't really work that way any more especially after QE. Currently the M1 Multiplier in the US is actually around .75 i.e. actually less money created by the banks than they have in CB reserves; it used to be about 3.0. The requirement to hold CB reserves is no practical impediment any more to banks creating money. The focus these days is all on asset quality and having sufficient capital to meet the risks. In other words the focus has gone off liquidity ratios and on to solvency ratios.

Getting back to OP, I don't think creating a wealth effect was the primary purpose of QE, though of course, for all sorts of reasons, if it worked it would naturally create a wealth effect which does not mean that one section of society would be exclusively the beneficiaries.

As to Mario's QE it is unlikely to have anything like the same wealth effect arising from supply and demand for financial assets, after all it is difficult to see bond yields getting much lower and the European stock indexes have already benefitted from the bounce. No, Mario's QE is good "old fashioned" QE; make the place awash with money and hope some seeps into the real economy.
 
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