Ireland is full.
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That's it in a nutshell though.
I know two Shinner "Activists" who have left the party over their immigration policies.
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A recent radio report interviewed a Moroccan international protection applicant sleeping in a tent.
Thousands of Irish people go on holiday to Morocco every year. Dept of Foreign Affairs do advise caution but it doesn't add up if they are succeed in the application. It's a Muslim country with laws different to ours ( some of which we had until fairly recently ourselves) but we can't accommodate everyone who disagrees with laws of their country. Extreme example of course, but then we could have applicants coming here because they can't have a beer in public in their home country.
Thousands of Irish people go on holiday to Morocco every year. Dept of Foreign Affairs do advise caution but it doesn't add up if they are succeed in the application. It's a Muslim country with laws different to ours ( some of which we had until fairly recently ourselves) but we can't accommodate everyone who disagrees with laws of their country. Extreme example of course, but then we could have applicants coming here because they can't have a beer in public in their home country.
Maybe he’s gay and doesn’t want to go to prison or be attacked because of who he is. We’ve no idea why he’s here.
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Indeed.
The vast majority of AS are making bogus claims.
One interviewed last week is a Palestinian from Jersalem.
Why go all the way to Ireland?
Why not go to one of the many Arab muslim countries nearby?
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A claim cannot be bogus or non-bogus, it is just a claim.
There is no obligation to seek international protection in a nearby country.
Are there people from peaceful places who are effectively economic migrants making asylum claims in Ireland? Yes. But that can only be discerned upon examination of the claim.
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Why do so many Irish people go to Australia or Canada or the US and end up overstaying their visa's.? What's the difference between them and an economic refugee coming to Ireland?. The use of "undocumented" for Irish people in the US annoys me, they are illegal immigrants to the US.
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Loads of countries have different laws, we had same law here until 30 years ago. They need to organise and lobby within their own country for a change as people did here.
If the proposed Euthanasia legislation comes in will that be a valid cause for an applicant as a human right they are denied but may be allowed here? What about abortion - is that now a valid claim... where will it all stop.
We have laws and regulations in place which define where it stops.
This is one of the things that happens when you are a rich country.
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In fairness, in some countries (Uganda is a case in point), being gay can be punishible by life imprisonment or in extreme cases, it is a capital offence. Even campaigning for rights can see someone imprisoned for 20 years.
Having said that, there is often a hypocrisy in the West. After all, Irish illegal emigrants to the USA are "undocumented" and not illegal economic migrants. No British person ever emigrates, instead they become "ex pats".
White people, it seems, can't be illegal immigrants.
Up to 70% of AS are shopping around for asylum:
www.independent.ie
The vast majority of AS are illegal immigrants making bogus claims.
Discarding documents = illegal immigrant
False documents = illegal immigrant
Making claims in multiple countries = against the rules
Up to 70pc of people seeking international protection in Ireland have also applied in other countries
Between 50pc and 70pc of people on average seeking international protection (IP) in Ireland every week have IP applications in other countries, according to the Department of Justice.
www.independent.ie
The vast majority of AS are illegal immigrants making bogus claims.
Discarding documents = illegal immigrant
False documents = illegal immigrant
Making claims in multiple countries = against the rules
Summary from the Journal on the impact of the new EU migration pact:
It contains five main proposals, which are:
People from countries whose nationals’ applications for international protection are rejected in at least 80% of cases will be processed along the accelerated route. Rather than being processed in a country, they will be processed near the EU’s “external borders” (land frontiers, ports and airports) so they could be quickly sent back if their request is judged to be unfounded or inadmissible.
www.thejournal.ie
It contains five main proposals, which are:
- To create uniform rules around the identification of people who arrive in Europe from outside the EU to claim asylum;
- To develop a common database about new arrivals to Europe, which can paint a more accurate picture of migration trends;
- To speed up decisions on claims made by asylum seekers who enter Europe;
- To establish a ‘solidarity mechanism’ so that all countries share responsibility for asylum applications, rather than those that are at the edge of Europe;
- To ensure that the EU is prepared for future crises, including the weaponisation of migration.
People from countries whose nationals’ applications for international protection are rejected in at least 80% of cases will be processed along the accelerated route. Rather than being processed in a country, they will be processed near the EU’s “external borders” (land frontiers, ports and airports) so they could be quickly sent back if their request is judged to be unfounded or inadmissible.
Ireland is joining the EU's Migration Pact: Here's what that means (in a five-minute summary)
We take a look at what the Government signed up to this week.
www.thejournal.ie
Dan O'Brien, the economist, was on the newspaper panel with Brendan O'Connor on RTE radio 1 Sunday morning. He rolled out a stat which even stunned Brendan for a moment!
The foreign born population of Ireland grew by 250k in 2022 alone. Just 1 year!
It's actually a success story that we have so little homelessness on the streets. The Govt should be applauded!
The foreign born population of Ireland grew by 250k in 2022 alone. Just 1 year!
It's actually a success story that we have so little homelessness on the streets. The Govt should be applauded!
According to the BBC in September 2023:
So even if we did have 250k immigration (?source), we must have had at least 150k emigration.
I presume we count Nordies as foreigners for the purposes of these statistics. Of course we should also count Cork people but I think being from Cork is a protected characteristic.
Was that all the Passports issued to Brits?
Source is the EuroStat population report published last week
If we did have 150k emigration, then it must have been all Irish born people (which was definitely not the case) because the Eurostat number is clearly saying there was 250k more foreign born nationals in Ireland in 2022 v's 2021.
So someone has the wrong stats
It could be that the BBC figure doesn't include Ukrainian refugees, and possibly anyone here under a temporary protection order, and the Eurostat figure does. Personally I think the very least we can do is take in Ukrainian refugees while so many of Ukrainian men are fighting a totalitarian dictator who wants to bite off a big chunk of the European Union (and no, we won't help defend our EU partners either if that happens thanks to the cowardice clause we had inserted into the Treaty of Lisbon).