Singled out? What about all the pay cuts, redundancies, three day weeks? that nearly the whole country is facing.
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If 1 section of the work force is hit by a tax and nobody else is then they are being singled out.
You said the Public servants are being asked to contribute more towards their pensions but this levy is not being used for the pensions
If 1 section of the work force is hit by a tax and nobody else is then they are being singled out.
I would have preferred if our govt had put some thought into shoreing up resources for the coming months instead of blowing them all to make their developer friends richer.
I would have preferred it if they hadn't wasted billions on the failed decentralisation.
Or how about not to have dropped income taxes so much.
In order to make ends meet they should raise everyones taxes.
Personally I can't understand why the Greens are still in govt with FF, if they had an ounce of credibility they would pull out of govt and call a general election.
If it were an organised exclusion / boycott, that would be valid - and yes, that would probably constitute harassment.OK, but as I said (and assuming you are employed by the public sector) your employer would differ with you on this.
If it were an organised exclusion / boycott, that would be valid - and yes, that would probably constitute harassment.
If, however, it were simply a matter of some colleagues - without collusion - not socialising with others because they disagree with them then there's no recourse. Only if collusion comes into it could you invoke anti-bullying codes.
Singled out? What about all the pay cuts, redundancies, three day weeks? that nearly the whole country is facing.
I must make a hefty contribution towards my own private pension - the pension itself is not indexed and it is a meagre one. If I had to pay more because my employer was in financial difficulty I would accept it. I certainly would not consider it a reason to strike.
Yes but this is different the private sector is goverened by market forces.
Public service is not goverened by market forces.
Our govt has singled our public servants for this they could have said this was a pay cut if they had a pair of brass ones but did not.
Why should some sectors be immune to the pain?
The only people who get super duper pensions are the ones who are in public service for 40 years (or get to be a politician).
If you are only in public service a few years and will be retiring in 20 years then you will need a second pension otherwise you will not have enough to survive.
With regards to building sites you are wrong on all counts. You have to be a member of a union to work on union jobs ( which all jobs are supposed to be) You cannot choose to leave the union, if you do you have to leave the site.I think thats realy quite unfair to the majority of union members. If you join the union, you agree to abide by majority ballots. If strike action is ballotted, you can vote against it. If you are in the minority, you can choose, abide my the wishes of the majority, or leave the union. What you can't do is have it both ways.
I saw a strike upfront fairly recently. I saw a worker cross a picket line, and I can assure you that he was not subject to any bullying or intimidation of any kind. He might have found not many people sitting next to him in the canteen afterwards, but not a thing was said to him about his own personal decision. I think you'll find that most union workers will respect any person who stands up for his own convictions, which ever side they may be on. What does not garner respect is skulking around trying not to draw attention to yourself.
Market force dictates how much money the exchequer makes. This money pays for our services. We don't have the money to pay, simple as.
I have to take a pay cut, not that I earned a whole lot to began with. Why should some sectors be immune to the pain?
I know a few Public Sector workers and the general thought process is that this levy burden has not been spread out evenly.
If it was evenly spread then there would not be so much opposition to it.
well said; that's the bottom line.Market force dictates how much money the exchequer makes. This money pays for our services. We don't have the money to pay, simple as.
I would love to know why public and civil service employees have been singled out for this pension levy.
They aren't the ones who caused this economic mess.
I've started calling a public sector levy as to me this is what it is.
Being personally abusive about people generally isn't conducive to rational debate. Try having some manners.This is the mentality you are dealing with, monkeys with votes. Or should that be sheep, baaa baaa baaa.
Try telling that to a CO who will get little or no public service pension above the standard old age pension.Presumeably because their pensions are vastly superior to those in the private sector.
Depends on your definition of 'greatly'. Relative to the benefits that some received during the boom time, the benefits to most in the public sector have been very modest.True, but they benefitted greatly during the preceding boom.
You're right - there was some particularly bitter and nasty stuff going on around these construction sites. They did have some valid points to protest about (remember Gama et al), but threats are never justified.With regards to building sites you are wrong on all counts. You have to be a member of a union to work on union jobs ( which all jobs are supposed to be) You cannot choose to leave the union, if you do you have to leave the site.
The last builders strike i can remember not ony were workers warned from not crossing the picket, there was treats (verbal and physical) against those who did and i am talking about first hand experience. there were rentamobs sent to various different high profile sites that were notmember of the unions or even worked on sites and all they did was abuse any who crossed the line
If you are not being treated fairly, you should have come along to the rally last Saturday.Who can you or I moan to about pay cuts? Where can I go on a rally and protest the circumstances that I am being dragging into?
FYI, the PSEU are excluding social welfare offices from any strike action.Well while we think we'll go on strike other do and outrages enough the Social Welfare Local Offices will be closed tommorrow, so if you are trying to sign up to the life register, stay at home no way.
According to what I read in Revenue and Socal Welfare Local Offices will be closed and phone services will be unavailable to them.
There we go, what a targeted approach, hit the poorest and at the same time make sure the incoming arm is also down.
Yes, but relative to the benefits that most public sector employees received during the boom those received by most of the private sector have been modest. That's what matters.Depends on your definition of 'greatly'. Relative to the benefits that some received during the boom time, the benefits to most in the public sector have been very modest.
If it was evenly spread then there would not be so much opposition to it.
If you are not being treated fairly, you should have come along to the rally last Saturday.
I think most realise that the horse has bolted a long time ago with the tacit approval of the Irish electoral. We have a huge deficit thanks to a pro cyclical policies implemented by the Irish government over the past 5-8 years and now we are in a hole. Protesting is not going to make €10bn appear. The rest will express their displeasure via their vote next election, pity they didn't do it 2 elections ago.Complainer said:If you are not being treated fairly, you should have come along to the rally last Saturday.