Has anyone any opinions on the BlackBee Healthcare fund?

Just get a different advisor.
These are sometimes unregulated investments. Your advisor should be explaining that very clearly to you. But, the commissions are HUGE, so maybe they are more motivated by their own financial wellbeing than yours.

EDIT: to correct, not all of these investments are unregulated
Is it easy to change and get a different advisor? And if so how do we best choose? The current one came highly recommended by friends and had great Google reviews..however as they are broadly financial advisors when I did some more digging( after the fact) the reviews were mostly on the mortgage end of things. Thanks for your input.
 
But regulated of not, I don't like the concept of investments with a capped upside but unlimited downside.
I 100% agree. Investors should assume the risk and get all of the upside that goes with it. That is how investing works. These structured products that claim to bend the rules of investing only benefit the promoters.

That wouldn't be the Ditchley one by any chance? (Asking for a close friend! ;))
Yep.

An accountants report was due out at the end of June on the group. This is important as some of the nursing homes can't take in new residents until they get the fire regs up to date. Everything going through EY now.
 
Is it easy to change and get a different advisor? And if so how do we best choose? The current one came highly recommended by friends and had great Google reviews..however as they are broadly financial advisors when I did some more digging( after the fact) the reviews were mostly on the mortgage end of things. Thanks for your input.
Mortgage brokers tend to have a poor knowledge of the pensions and investment market. The mortgage market is much more lucrative, so they don't need to learn about pensions and investments.
 
Mortgage brokers tend to have a poor knowledge of the pensions and investment market. The mortgage market is much more lucrative, so they don't need to learn about pensions and investments.
Hi Steven, so our advisor was specific to investments, however there are a team of people in this particular financial advisory group specialising in various areas. The reviews were mostly about how great the mortgage advisor was and little mention of their investment advisor...who actually appears to be the owner of the company. On a side note I also feel he is trying to get us to feel sympathy for him! - saying things such as 'my father has invested in this too' which just makes me more uncomfortable/nervous and it feels like it is a deflection from the fact that he has advised us badly on two separate investments.
 
if you feel that you have a case, make a formal written complaint.

Then go to the Ombudsman if he does not resolve it.

If he did not explain the risks adequately, the least he should do is to refund the commission he earned.

But if he told you all the risks and you accepted them, then he has nothing to apologise for.

Brendan
 
Not going to be their first. According to HIQA, the home failed to meet fire safety standards and no engagement was received regarding remedial works to be carried out. Strap in.
 

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has anyone heard anything on Blackbee lately ???
We met with our advisor in August who assured us it would be Q4 or early next year when payouts will occur...with interest due to the months delay. I unfortunately find this hard to believe and unlikely. He was incredibly stressed and defensive during our meeting , which leads me to assume the advisors are none the wiser than their clients. It was not made clear to us at our previous meetings that this fund was unregulated so as per advice on here I have written a formal letter of complaint.
 
We met with our advisor in August who assured us it would be Q4 or early next year when payouts will occur...with interest due to the months delay. I unfortunately find this hard to believe and unlikely. He was incredibly stressed and defensive during our meeting , which leads me to assume the advisors are none the wiser than their clients. It was not made clear to us at our previous meetings that this fund was unregulated so as per advice on here I have written a formal letter of complaint.
I suspect you’re right. If things keep going the way they are, investors will be left with nothing as it seems none of the assets are cash positive. Three of the nursing homes in the portfolio are in jeopardy of closing. Only option is an experienced operator comes in to take over and returns a % on the € to investors for hanging in a little longer. Wouldn’t trust anything blackbee is churning out.

Do you mind sharing how it was not made clear the fund was unregulated @westcoast18 and who you complained to? Brokers are required to make this very clear under MiFID regulations.
 
@LODGEment we were first time investors and were assured we were investing in a low risk investment. We had originally gone in for mortgage advice and general financial advice but the investment Advisor happened to be sitting in on these meetings. Anyhow 'unregulated' was never a word that was mentioned and when I asked if there was any chance we could lose all of our investment on this I was laughed at. ( should have been a warning sign) I don't expect for anything to come from the letter of complaint but felt I needed to do something in an otherwise awful situation that is out of my control now. A hard lesson learned and safe to say I will never invest again. Our financial advisor ended our last meeting saying his company would also never be dealing with ' unregulated ' companies again...I am just amazed that any financial advisor would ever recommend this to the general public. The commission must be just massive.
 
. We had originally gone in for mortgage advice and general financial advice but the investment Advisor happened to be sitting in on these meetings.

This really is shocking

If you were taking out a mortgage, why did they bring in an investment advisor?

And if you were taking out a mortgage, how come they recommended you invested in anything?

Brendan
 
@LODGEment we were first time investors and were assured we were investing in a low risk investment. We had originally gone in for mortgage advice and general financial advice but the investment Advisor happened to be sitting in on these meetings. Anyhow 'unregulated' was never a word that was mentioned and when I asked if there was any chance we could lose all of our investment on this I was laughed at. ( should have been a warning sign) I don't expect for anything to come from the letter of complaint but felt I needed to do something in an otherwise awful situation that is out of my control now. A hard lesson learned and safe to say I will never invest again. Our financial advisor ended our last meeting saying his company would also never be dealing with ' unregulated ' companies again...I am just amazed that any financial advisor would ever recommend this to the general public. The commission must be just massive.
Hi Westcoast . I’m not a financial adviser but I would have thought a non regulated product couldn’t have been sold through a regulated entity . Do you have terms of business and reason why letter that was provided when you took out the policy ?
 
This really is shocking

If you were taking out a mortgage, why did they bring in an investment advisor?

And if you were taking out a mortgage, how come they recommended you invested in anything?

Brendan
Hi Brendan, Apologies I wasn't clear. We were looking to change mortgage provider's to get a better rate. This didn't happen in the end as our current mortgage providers were able to offer us a better option. Overall wish I never set foot in this financial advisor group and wish I listened to my gut more!
 
Anyone invested with Blackbee Alternatives Housing Bond?
Repayment is overdue by a year now with little communication coming from Blackbee.
 
Anyone invested with Blackbee Alternatives Housing Bond?
Repayment is overdue by a year now with little communication coming from Blackbee.

The last update that I got (verbally) was in Spring 2023. The story then was that Blackbee were trying to sell off tranches of built and part-built social houses. Unfortunately, the Blackbee head honcho David O'Shea seems to be hiding in the coal shed at the bottom of his garden. (Or he may be in one of the tunnels beneath Gaza City.)
 
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