election 2020 trump v who

WolfeTone said:
I only watch Fox News after I have been adequately padded by a reasonable protective dose of RT and Fintan O'Toole!
Have to be careful these days, viruses can spread quickly :p
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The viruses arrived in Cork on the 8 of feb 2020 and affected lots of other places as well on the same day it's called the Donnchsda O Laoghare virus 14057 people caught it in Cork around where Firefly lives,;)
Firefly has lots of WolfTone in his Neighbourhood looking after him. and good Neighbours looking after WolfeTone's down his neck of the woods by all accounts,
The corona virus was made in China and not expected to last a long time ,the Donnchsda O Laoghare virus seeing it was made in Cork is expected to be hard to get rid of,
I hope Simon is ok hope he did not bring it to Cork from the North .Is he well I heard he was out until the 15 Count,

Looks like they will have to close the Border between the Republic of Cork and the republic of Ireland, Rumour has it that it spread accross the Border from NI and no party can stop it from gaining a foothold, I hear Leo is giving up and inviting The RA in to see if they can do a better job ,
 
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WolfeTone said:
Of course, and the purpose of lobby register is to facilitate openness and transparency of who is lobbying who and for what purpose.

The accusations of 'Galway tents' and some politicians 'living beyond their means' are accusations of alleged impropriety - that some people are acting outside the register of lobbyists to influence political decisions, elections etc.
This is not acceptable in Ireland, save the people deciding otherwise at the ballot box.

In the US, there appears to be no limit and very little oversight of political lobbying, financial donations and the purposes of those donations.
This leaves the whole system wide open to corruption for those with deep pockets to unduly interfere in election outcomes, or effectively disenfranchise the votes of millions of ordinary people who dont have such resources.

Its not me peddling some conspiracy theory, im only echoing what Elizabeth Warren said about Mick Bloomberg being the riskiest candidate because of how much money he spends 'campaigning' for candidates on both sides of the house.
Bloomberg himself basically admits he buys elections.
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Well, Super Tuesday went in reverse order to spend. Mini Mike blew $700m and the Commie spent considerably more than Joe.
I think there is fairly full transparency on political donations and other campaign spend in the US, as there is in most areas of public life. Yes it is beyond the reach of the vast majority of Americans to mount a credible presidential campaign. Would you give every citizen a constitutional right to public funds to meet this democratic deficit? Or would you limit spend to that which the average American can afford?
 
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Duke of Marmalade said:
Well, Super Tuesday went in reverse order to spend. Mini Mike blew $700m and the commie spent considerably more than Joe. I think there is considerable transparency on political donations and other spend in the US.
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Indeed. I did some more reading about this and it would appear that there are more checks and balances that I initially perceived.
That said, there is a current controversy surrounding PAC (Political Action Committee) money, which is argued it facilitates donors to by-pass said checks and balances.

Its true, money cannot assure you of success, and it should serve as a precautionary tale if ever any of our own politicians attempt to promote themselves in such ostentatious manner.

Bloomberg shouldn't be too down-hearted. He won in American Somoa!
Perhaps TV advertising is not all what it used to be? Social media ads through FB seem the way to go - if it were not for those pesky Russians!
 
TarfHead said:
Agree. He already has the advantages of incumbency, FOX News & Sinclair media. If Sanders is the Democrat candidate, Trump will use the electorate's fear of Socialism :eek: to romp home.
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The electorate though may split the ticket... Trump may get the White House but Democrats to take Congress.
 
TarfHead said:
Agree. He already has the advantages of incumbency, FOX News & Sinclair media. If Sanders is the Democrat candidate, Trump will use the electorate's fear of Socialism :eek: to romp home.
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I think he’ll use people’s dislike of Sanders to romp home. Sanders isn’t as unpleasant a person as Corbyn in the UK but he’s equally unelectable
 
Firefly said:
Bloomberg is out. The Left will be delighted cos he's rich.
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Not at all. Sanders is a millionaire in his own right, and I hope he wins.
Bloomberg quitting is a good thing in one sense - he has no sensible policies, or policies that he intended to implement.

Its bad in another sense, here is a billionaire with clearly too much money on his hands. The only good thing to come from his campaign is that he put $700m back into the economy in an advertising campaign. Somewhere in all of that, ordinary working people got jobs, bonuses etc, somewhere in all of that some people are now able to pay the rent, mortgage etc.
It may have something to do with why he won convincingly in American Somoa!
 
Sanders is worth about $2.5 million, mostly because both he and his wife have or had very well paid State funded jobs. His Salary is around $175k a year and he’s a landlord on the back of that salary. He’s also written 3 books but most of his income is from the government job.
To compare him to Trump or Bloomberg (an actual billionaire) is silly.
it is correct to say that the left don’t like Bloomberg because he’s rich but they also don’t like him because, like Trump, he’s an opportunist who could quite easily be running for the other side.
 
WolfeTone said:
Is that because Trump exudes charisma that most Americans cant resist?
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No, it’s because Sanders is a bully and an egotist and full or moral certainly and contempt for those who hold different views. That makes him a very hard person to like.
Trump would push his buttons and Sanders would spit and bluster and alienate the middle 20% who dislike Trump but will dislike Sanders more.
 
Trump will bluster but that’s what he always does and he’s the incumbent. He’s got the bottom of the market cornered. The mouth breathers and knuckle draggers are already in his camp.
 
Purple said:
Trump will bluster but that’s what he always does and he’s the incumbent. He’s got the bottom of the market cornered. The mouth breathers and knuckle draggers are already in his camp.
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I don't disagree with that. I think, at this point, Trump is a practical certainty to be returned.
The only prospective nominees, in my opinion, of having any chance of ruffling Trumps feathers and putting him somewhat on the back foot is Sanders or Gabbard.
Biden can barely string three coherent sentences together and I watched some videos of his previous campaigning - lies, u-turns etc. Trump will have a field day.
 
Sanders will never win the swing voters. Rightly or wrongly “Socialism” is a toxic word in America and Bernie is a socialist.
By our standards he’s quite moderate, we just gave a bunch of far left child killers a big chunk of the vote, but by US standards he’s way to the left.
 
Purple said:
Sanders will never win the swing voters. Rightly or wrongly “Socialism” is a toxic word in America and Bernie is a socialist.
By our standards he’s quite moderate, we just gave a bunch of far left child killers a big chunk of the vote, but by US standards he’s way to the left.
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Am I the only one who is getting fed up with your constant use of the term "child killers" to refer to Sinn Fein, give it a rest.

You don't like them, we get it.
 
cremeegg said:
Am I the only one who is getting fed up with your constant use of the term "child killers" to refer to Sinn Fein, give it a rest.

You don't like them, we get it.
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I'm simply referring to the facts. Many of their key members were, and probably still are, members of a terrorist organisation what killed children. Ergo they are child killers.
 
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