Eire has highest % risk of Bankruptcy

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"All countries are on the path towards bankruptcy, to measure where a country stands along this path it is critical to look beyond official statistics that focus primarily on public sector net debt and the annual budget deficit in terms of % of GDP.
The key item missing from most commentary on this subject matter is debt and liabilities that are denominated in foreign currencies as that can mask a stealth trend towards potentially imminent bankruptcy that can suddenly blow up in the face of a countries citizens who had been previously mislead by official statistics into thinking that the debt situation was under control, much as Icelanders experienced during 2008 where one day they enjoyed one of the highest standards of living amongst westerners to next day wake up to be bankrupt and poorer in terms of purchasing power than many third world countries. The key driver for state bankruptcy and currency collapse is the amount a country owes or is liable to foreigners, as debt denominated in foreign currencies cannot be inflated away as governments can do with domestic debt so it is one of the primary driving forces for a country going bankrupt as it is unable to meet the increasing interest payments due in foreign currency as its own currency falls.


The following graph attempts to paint an accurate picture of the current relative state of the trend towards bankruptcy of the worlds major economies which takes into account public and private debt, unfunded liabilities, budget deficits, and debt denominated in foreign currencies, as well as taking into account the historic track record of the countries in dealing with past debt crisis. The results are shown as a % of the countries risk of going bankrupt where Iceland would be at 100% following its defacto debt default.


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Whilst the mainstream press these past two months has been obsessed with the Greek debt crisis, the above graph clearly illustrates that a far larger debt crisis looms in Ireland that could soon transplant Greece in the debt crisis headlines over the coming months, similarly a number of other Euro Zone countries head the risk towards bankruptcy league table with Belgium and Portugal not far behind Greece. The price that these countries pay for being stuck in the Euro single currency is that they cannot devalue to try and gain some competitive advantage for their economies and therefore try and grow and inflate their way out of a high debt burden that stifles economic activity. "


http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article18622.html
 
Yes, but in the case of the Euro foreigners <> foreign currency.
David McWilliams has argued that we should leave the Euro for this reason.
However unless we're planning to do this, premise for the article is a faulty one.
 
I like Nadeem Walayat's analysis in general.

However I had to question that graph. What is is showing?

What is the scale showing? Amount of external foreign owned debt?

If so in what currency is the debt totalled??

The graph is rather subjective I feel although fairly correct in order of countries.
 
So you think there is a bigger chance of the USA going bankrupt than Brazil?

Yes without a doubt! The USA has one of the worst set of economic fundamentals in the world and Brazil one of the best.

The USA is the world's biggest debtor nation, owing more debt to the greatest number of countries ever recorded.

Of course the US will go bankrupt at some point. With its global reserve currency it will take a while (around 10 years or so); but bust it certainly will be.

There is a strange perception in the West that somehow we are immune from insolvency. How wrong.

When you look at unfunded public liabilities of 350%/gdp and upwards, 10-12% budget deficits; official debt of 80%/gdp and rising, no foreign currency reserves; huge trade deficits -

If this is not a sign of insolvency then somone please tell me what is?!!!

I am surprised the USA is not further up the list of bankrupt coutries. It should be.

Ireland, UK, USA, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Italy - All Insolvent.

The question is what form will the bankruptcy take?

For the USA I don't see any sort of IMF bailout. Most likely a hyperinflationary collapse and default or debasement of their debt to foreign holders.

This willl then create massive geo-political tensions and possibly some sort of war.

For the rest of the bust West - A series of IMF bailouts, currency collapses and defaults...
 
Someone please show me a better definition of bankrupt that this -

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http://www.chrismartenson.com/system/files/u4/Debt_to_GDP_with_light_blue_arrow.jpg


And the USA's debt is growing at an amarming rate. 500% of GDP soon...

As Marc Faber says - they will never repay their debt. They simply cannot and are past the point of no return.

The West is flush broke.

Huge shift in global power East occuring over the next 25 years.
 
I see no-one has yet rebutted the graph, just expressed contrary opinions.

Greece has a worse relationship between its national debt and its GDP than we do.

Europe appreciates our austerity measures, is worried about Greece and yet we're highest.

Doesn't make sense.

ONQ.
 
Absolute tosh! Most economists should be treated with the same reverance as astrologers. The parameters within which they make forecasts are often faulty or can be too easily skewed by outside forces. Then there is the "Economist's" agenda. For that reason, they choose to earn a crust from writing/spinning/tipping, rather than putting their money where their mouths are. And those who do/did, welllllllllll, ........ . Lehman Bros, Enron, AIG, Goldmans. The market finds you out. Remember Posiedon? Or closer to home - Paul Singer's philately club, IOS, Barings. But this does not stop both "safe" investors and suckers from dipping their toes in the investment pond. This can result in riches or fool's gold. Wipeouts come around a few times in one's lifetime. Timing is all important and IMPOSSIBLE to work out. Selling at the right time is LUCK ......... barring insider dealings. So, back to the OP, you may as well read the financial pages of Old Moore's Almanac.
 
Absolute tosh! Most economists should be treated with the same reverance as astrologers. The parameters within which they make forecasts are often faulty or can be too easily skewed by outside forces. Then there is the "Economist's" agenda. For that reason, they choose to earn a crust from writing/spinning/tipping, rather than putting their money where their mouths are. And those who do/did, welllllllllll, ........ . Lehman Bros, Enron, AIG, Goldmans. The market finds you out. Remember Posiedon? Or closer to home - Paul Singer's philately club, IOS, Barings. But this does not stop both "safe" investors and suckers from dipping their toes in the investment pond. This can result in riches or fool's gold. Wipeouts come around a few times in one's lifetime. Timing is all important and IMPOSSIBLE to work out. Selling at the right time is LUCK ......... barring insider dealings. So, back to the OP, you may as well read the financial pages of Old Moore's Almanac.

Well said!
 
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