There is no free to air on cable.
End of.
There is no free to air on cable.
Sorry FTA may be the wrong phrase. By FTA what I mean is stations you have paid for and are entitled to view, either free or trough basic subscription.No because the NTL network. The physical cable, is NOT FTA. Can you get it without ANY NTL equipment. No you need their cable, their network. Therefore its not FTA.
As I,ve already said taking that as law then you are not allowed connect a TV , a DVR, or even a signal booster to the network.End of the day you're not allowed to do it.
Exactly!!!! TherforeIts not illegal it breaks the T&C's.
is not correct.The only legal choice is the one NTL provide
Sorry FTA may be the wrong phrase. By FTA what I mean is stations you have paid for and are entitled to view, either free or trough basic subscription.
What I am trying to convey from the start is it is NTLs T&Cs that say you can't connect any equipmet to their network. This does not make it illegal.
As I,ve already said taking that as law then you are not allowed connect a TV , a DVR, or even a signal booster to the network.
Exactly!!!! Therfore
is not correct.
There is. So if this box is not decoding any subscription channels how is it illegal?But you either have a box which breaks ntl's encryption or you don't. There is no digital box (on cable) that only shows the channels you paid for.
Sorry FTA may be the wrong phrase. By FTA what I mean is stations you have paid for and are entitled to view, either free or trough basic subscription.
What I am trying to convey from the start is it is NTLs T&Cs that say you can't connect any equipmet to their network. This does not make it illegal.
As I,ve already said taking that as law then you are not allowed connect a TV , a DVR, or even a signal booster to the network.
There is. So if this box is not decoding any subscription channels how is it illegal?
Exactly ! thats what I have been saying all alongAnything that decrypts a signal is illegal.
Anything else is against their T&C's.
Yes you canYou can't buy a box that doesn't decrypt.
To be clear. I don't want anything for free. I pay for the basic package & thats all I recieve. There are set top boxes that dont break the encryption. Why would you use such a box?? Maybe it has a DVR function maybe it has a HDD. Maybe you want it as a radio reciever to pipe music. The uses are endless, they are also irrelevant. There are also TVs now with a digital reciever, if you buy one of these & you only have an anolouge subscription is the Illegal? No, Is it breaking the T&Cs ? Yes.Don't bother with the line, that you'll use the box and not use the decrypt functionality. Even if it was true, no one is going to believe that.
100% correct As Ive stated I dont want anything for free..If you want free TV, then you buy a FTA satellite kit, and get an ariel for the Irish stations. Thats it. No other way.
There are numerous applications that would be usefullIt wouldn't be illegal , just against their terms and conditions.
But it would also be as much use as plugging a toaster into the back of your tv.
Ofcourse not. I never said there was.There is no "i only hacked the channels I paid for".
andThe only legal choice is the one NTL provide.
Are incorrect statements.it's a criminal offense to use any non ntl box on their network.
There are set top boxes that dont break the encryption.
Exactly ! thats what I have been saying all along
But its obvious this thread is not about analogue equipment. UPC/NTL don't care about that, they are turning it off soon. So stop going on about it.
2 Questions which will sum up all of this for you all?
Is an NTL box the only legal box you can connect to their network??????
Legally the answer is no!!
Is it a criminal offence to use any non NTL box on their network ??
No it is not .
It is a criminal offence to use equipment to break the encryption . I have said this all along.
All the rest is irrelevant. People are constantly presuming I am trying to use some equipment illegally. I am not!!
I am simply pointing out 2 statements which are not true.
2 Questions which will sum up all of this for you all?
Is an NTL box the only legal box you can connect to their network??????
Legally the answer is no!!
Is it a criminal offence to use any non NTL box on their network ??
No it is not .
It is a criminal offence to use equipment to break the encryption . I have said this all along.
All the rest is irrelevant. People are constantly presuming I am trying to use some equipment illegally. I am not!!
I am simply pointing out 2 statements which are not true.
No but it proves what I said to be correctDoes it matter if its criminal. You'd be in breech of contract. Is that irrelevant.
A digital receiver converts the digital signal so that you can see and hear channels through your existing television.Answer the question.
Whats a digital reciever?
Irrelevant to my point but I will humour you anyway!!What NTL compatiable set top box can you buy that can't decrypt.
So what exactly would this box that doesn't break the encryption do ?
No but it proves what I said to be correct
A digital receiver converts the digital signal so that you can see and hear channels through your existing television.
Irrelevant to my point but I will humour you anyway!!
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If I use a Eurovox or Starview with out the EMU key turned on I am simply recieving the stations I have paid for with my basic subscription.
How is that illegal?
Except its a generic term.Its a definition. I thought thats what you wanted.
I was originally talking about what was illegal & what wasn'tBut you were originally talking about other boxes...
Which is irrelevant as to it being a criminal offence.AFAIK the NTL digital, is all encrypted, including the channels which are free on analogue. The NTL box decrypts it. If you plug another box with can't do decrypting into it. You will see nothing. AFAIK.
This is what i am disputing.
Which is irrelevant as to it being a criminal offence.
This is what i am disputing.