Hi Mtk and daheff, as you have found out annuity rates are very expensive at the moment. However as you get older the rates can increase materially, i.e the pension income for a single life annuity at age 80 is almost double that available at age 65. So we suggest clients look at annuity rates at different ages e.g 65,70,75 and 80 etc. The clients can then see if it makes more sense to initially invest in an Approved Retirement Fund and gradually move to an annuity as you get older. This phased retirement means that you can manage the investment risk when you are younger and probably better able/motivated to do so and can move to risk free income when you are older and less comfortable with running risk. Once you move to annuity then there is no moving back. If you send me on the details as suggested by Steven above we can run a quick comparative analysis for you both. We would also suggest that you do this with annuities both on a flat and inflating basis. All the best. Vincent