New Commerical vehical tax

if Gormely would understand the law in place already twould be of help

if you pay commercial tax, you aren't allow use your commercial vehicle after work hours anyways, maybe he should police this?
 
A ridiculous move.

I'm a teacher and I have a commercial jeep. I use it to carry stuff to and from my school all the time. I don't have back seats, I don't carry passengers, I DOE it every year (costs the bones of €90), I have commercial insurance on it and I pay the commercial road tax rate.

I will sign any declaration stating that I use it in the course of my work but what am I to do ... not go to the shop in it? not take a family member in the seat beside me?

I had a car too ... I got rid of it because it spent most of its time in the garage. I use the jeep both for work and for my own use to get from a to b.

I bought a do upper house and I pay the property tax on it. I usually have the jeep full of something ... cement, timber, chainsaw, tools etc. so that I can work on the house.

Am I to be penalised for having a commercial that I use both for work and private use?
 
Sure can't you just tax and insure it privately as you used to do with your car.
 
NHG said:
Sure can't you just tax and insure it privately as you used to do with your car.
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My thoughts as well, given that your private insurance will normally cover your commute to and from work
 
UFOman said:
if you pay commercial tax, you aren't allow use your commercial vehicle after work hours anyways, maybe he should police this?
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I wasn't aware of this. Do you have a link to a source? What if you do your commercial work at night?

Is it permissible to drive your commercial vehicle to and from your home and your place of business?

I have always used my van for private uses, and my insurance is valid for such uses.
 
Yeah right .... €1k road tax for a commercial vehicle per year.

Let me bend over now ...
 
JohnOB said:
A ridiculous move.

I'm a teacher and I have a commercial jeep. I use it to carry stuff to and from my school all the time. I don't have back seats, I don't carry passengers, I DOE it every year (costs the bones of €90), I have commercial insurance on it and I pay the commercial road tax rate.

I will sign any declaration stating that I use it in the course of my work but what am I to do ... not go to the shop in it? not take a family member in the seat beside me?

I had a car too ... I got rid of it because it spent most of its time in the garage. I use the jeep both for work and for my own use to get from a to b.

I bought a do upper house and I pay the property tax on it. I usually have the jeep full of something ... cement, timber, chainsaw, tools etc. so that I can work on the house.

Am I to be penalised for having a commercial that I use both for work and private use?
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Teachers claiming they need commercial vehicles? I've heard it all now. Sounds to me like this is tax evasion, plain and simple. I drive to work, often with work-related papers/laptop. Does that mean I can tax my car at the commercial rate? Somehow I doubt it.
 
Nobody complains when I bring shelving in the jeep to put up in the school.

Nobody complains when the football equipment goes in the back of the jeep.

Nobody complains when I take stuff to the recycling centre in the back of the jeep.

Nobody complains when I bring tables to the church in the back of it.

etc. etc. etc. etc.

Not a day goes by but something related to my work isn't transported in it.

I didn't tax a car at commercial rate. It's a properly converted jeep. No back seats, blackened out windows and it is DOE tested every year.

I don't care what it sounds like .... I didn't evade tax. I CAN justify the use of the jeep for my work.

And no .... you can't tax your car at a commercial rate .... even if you wanted to.
 
This is a non story. Many county councils already make you sign a goods vehicle declaration before they will allow you to tax commercially. This has been the case in Wicklow for the last 10 years at least.
 
JohnOB said:
Nobody complains when I bring shelving in the jeep to put up in the school.

Nobody complains when the football equipment goes in the back of the jeep.

Nobody complains when I take stuff to the recycling centre in the back of the jeep.

Nobody complains when I bring tables to the church in the back of it.

etc. etc. etc. etc.

Not a day goes by but something related to my work isn't transported in it.

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That doesn't make it a commercial vehicle, no matter how much more effort you put into your job or how often you use it for work-related purposes. I would also question how often you need to bring shelving to work? Or how often you have to throw the football kit into the back? In any event, thats all part and parcel of training a team, be it a school team or otherwise. You can attempt to justify it to yourself all you want, but you've taxed your vehicle at the commercial rate even though you don't use it to run a business. I'm sure no one complains and I'm doubtful that many people even say thanks. BUT, its still tax evasion, no matter how worthy your trips in it.
 
It doesn't matter what occupation you have anyone can own a commercial vehicle.that Gormely fella is a fool and he needs a good kick up the backside, I think he lives in la la land half the time.I work days and nights so how is this new tax going to effect me.Gormely is a tool.....:p
 
Question away like mad ... I don't have to justify it for you.

Bottom line ... I use a commercial vehicle in the course of my work and I'll sign the declaration when it comes my way and I'll be happy to take my chances with it and if I end up having my day in court I'll make my case there.

(and who says running a school isn't a business? It's certainly not a hobby.)
 
Running a school is the principal/headmasters job. Both him and you are employees in the public sector and as such are not running a business. you are not self employed or a director and in the course of your job do not need a commercial vehicle. they should ensure that only a self employed can have a commercial vehicle.
 
Who said I wasn't a Principal? and the Principal is in charge of 'the day to day running of the school'

Teachers/Principals are employees of the Board of Management.

Perhaps I should get the BOM to pay the road tax!
 
JohnOB said:
Who said I wasn't a Principal? and the Principal is in charge of 'the day to day running of the school'

Teachers/Principals are employees of the Board of Management.

Perhaps I should get the BOM to pay the road tax!
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Perhaps you should if you're using the vehicle for that much work related stuff! Though if this were allowed/happened, there isn't a shred of doubt in my mind that all teachers would suddenly be running regular errands for their respective schools and that by consequence, in their own, self-righteous way of thinking, they would be "entitled" to have their motor tax paid for them. Here's a better idea. Teachers can use the extra hour a week or month (whatever it is) that they have to work under the Croke Park agreement to run errands for the school using their cars. They could then legitimately seek to have their motor tax paid by their employer to offset the cost to them of the extra hour! Of course, teachers who don't drive couldn't avail of this and would have to be compensated in some way. What a quandry.
 
Whether you like it or not you don't need a commercial vehicle (or ANY vehicle for that matter) to be a teacher, no matter how much school stuff you use it for.

To claim otherwise is silly

On the issue of the motor tax, again I don't see why motor tax cannot be collected at the petrol pumps. The more you drive, the more you pay.

Simple!

+1 on the Gormley = fool comment as well!
 
DB74 ~ no you don't need any vehicle. Teachers can hitch a ride to work and carry everything on their backs.

Nowhere does it say that teachers are exluded from owning and taxing a commercial vehicle commercially.

And this is one teacher who'll sign the declaration that it's being used in the course of work.
 
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