. . . . . and a lot easier than looking after young children and showing responsibility. Great excuse though.That same husband may have been working long hours and studying, to help build a better and more stable future for his family - trying to improve their financial circumstances, to ensure he could send his kids to college, held fund their retirement, maybe facilitate his former wife's desire to be a stay at home mum etc.
There are two sides, to every coin
That same husband may have been working long hours and studying, to help build a better and more stable future for his family - trying to improve their financial circumstances, to ensure he could send his kids to college, held fund their retirement, maybe facilitate his former wife's desire to be a stay at home mum etc.
There are two sides, to every coin
I found looking after my own young children a pleasure and a privilege. Working (in a job) is harder and less rewarding. As a single parent I have to do the cooking and cleaning and washing and ironing in the evenings and at weekends while still having to be able to do the parenting stuff like baking and arts and crafts and walks and chats and learning to use a sewing machine and all that stuff.. . . . . and a lot easier than looking after young children and showing responsibility. Great excuse though.
I found looking after my own young children a pleasure and a privilege. Working (in a job) is harder and less rewarding. As a single parent I have to do the cooking and cleaning and washing and ironing in the evenings and at weekends while still having to be able to do the parenting stuff like baking and arts and crafts and walks and chats and learning to use a sewing machine and all that stuff.
Most of the men I know would far rather spend more time at home with their kids.
Was it set in the 50's, 60's or 70's?Above is the opening sequence to the first play I've ever dreamed up. I don't see it progressing any further.
Main Lessons of Play:-(i) Eileen gets a raw deal. (ii) She is convinced her position in live is priviliged and a pleasure (iii) Purple . . . . sorry I mean Paddy wants to keep her thinking that way. (iv) There appears to be no end to the circle of privilege and pleasure which have taken on a whole new meaning.
Above is the opening sequence to the first play I've ever dreamed up. I don't see it progressing any further.
Main Lessons of Play:-(i) Eileen gets a raw deal. (ii) She is convinced her position in live is priviliged and a pleasure (iii) Purple . . . . sorry I mean Paddy wants to keep her thinking that way. (iv) There appears to be no end to the circle of privilege and pleasure which have taken on a whole new meaning.
Was it set in the 50's, 60's or 70's?
1.You do realise that the world has changed in the last 30-40 years, right?
2.You do realise that women under the age of 35 out earn men by a considerable amount?
3.You do realise that most men would love to spend more time with their children?
4.You do realise that if a parent makes the decision to stay at home and look after their children it is a choice; the marriage bar was removed in the 1970's?
5. On the rare occasion I get to drop my youngest daughter to school it is a privilege. Getting to collect her and chat about her day and the minutiae of what her friends and teacher said and did is wonderful. If people fail to appreciate the gift that is then that is their loss and certainly not something to moan about.
None of your post really makes sense to me, it sounds like projection of your own thoughts on the entire population. But to pick up on one specific point - where are you getting this 'one in two' statistic from?4. One in two parents have no choice on the matter
I'm sorry that my post does not make sense to you. You're right though, these are my thoughts. I can't talk for the entire population but I can talk on what I see and hear. To try and answer your question re the 4th point above. If two parents are working and they decide that "junior" is not to be minded by a childminder then one certainly will have to give up paid work. Usually, it is the female of the species who becomes the fulltime parent. Eventhough the male of the species will have his views, ultimately the other parent has to come to terms with giving up the comforts of work. I'm not saying minding children is not "work" it is and largely unpaid other than the so called privileges and pleasures mentioned on this thread.None of your post really makes sense to me, it sounds like projection of your own thoughts on the entire population. But to pick up on one specific point - where are you getting this 'one in two' statistic from?
So your scenario both parents have a conversation about child minding and they decide that one of them has to give up work to mind the child. The mother is then somehow coerced into taking this role.I'm sorry that my post does not make sense to you. You're right though, these are my thoughts. I can't talk for the entire population but I can talk on what I see and hear. To try and answer your question re the 4th point above. If two parents are working and they decide that "junior" is not to be minded by a childminder then one certainly will have to give up paid work. Usually, it is the female of the species who becomes the fulltime parent. Eventhough the male of the species will have his views, ultimately the other parent has to come to terms with giving up the comforts of work. I'm not saying minding children is not "work" it is and largely unpaid other than the so called privileges and pleasures mentioned on this thread.
[just in case, again I say that no offence is meant to anybody by my post]
So your scenario both parents have a conversation about child minding and they decide that one of them has to give up work to mind the child. The mother is then somehow coerced into taking this role.
The more likely scenario is that they have a conversation about child minding and the mother says that she wants to stay home and mind the child or work part time or whatever. The father then supports her choice. In that scenario there is usually a whole social infrastructure for her to tap into. If the father stays at home he has to face "Mother and Toddler" groups and can tag along with the mothers for coffee after dropping the kids to school or, more likely, go home on his own.
We have rightly changed the norm about women in the workplace. We've done nothing to change the narrative about "Mums" being the ones who raise the kids. Until that happens it's hard for fathers to take up the primary caregiver role.
I have always found it a pleasure to spend time with my children. Given that most parents, in any sort of family unit, have no choice but to work fulltime I consider it a privilege to be able to spend time with them during the workday when they are young.
3. Many men would say that, but (read my lips) NOOOOOOOOO Wayyyyyyyyyyyyy!
All parents make sacrifices. In a marriage, a proper marriage, or any proper family unit there is no "my money" or "your money", there is just "our money". If you are not comfortable with that then don't have children.I'm just thinking of a fulltime parent (perhaps the mother of children) looking in on these posts. Nobody wants to stay home as each parent probably wishes to be working fulltime enhancing the lifestyle to which they have become accustomed. The situation arises and the mom is usually the person to take up the mantle of unpaid parent, mother and wife (there may be much peer pressure here!). 'The Man Himself ' advises her that she is getting the better deal and her life is about to become more pleasurable and privileged. I'm saying it ain't - the person has made probably the biggest sacrifice of her life and won't get a cent for it but will get the occasional pat on the back and a few pence to buy coffee.
The Mother and Toddler groups can tag along with the home anchored fulltime parent and share a table for coffee and enjoy the privilege and pleasure. Wow-weeeeee! She has arrived and is forever grateful for The Man Himself allowing her the money for the coffee.
[Why am I saying to myself the unpaid fulltime parent is not getting a good deal?]
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