Sounds like it's collected in a similar way to LPT or VHT (Vacant Home Tax) arrears?Generally, local authorities only manage to recover the levies if the property is sold.
The derelict property section of the Sligo Co Co web site is an excellent example of a very poor job. How is it possible to mess up a simple table and a few indented lists for crying out loud.Most local authorities basically are staffed by people who are not very good at their job.
I agree, but this is a tax on wealth. Unused wealth but wealth nonetheless.Taxes targeted on the poor and the old are always brutally difficult to collect.
Yeah. But the only way to enforce such a tax is to seize the wealth — the state takes over the land, auctions it, uses the auction proceeds to pay the outstanding tax liabilities and pay the costs of the proceedings and the auction, and then remits any balance to the former owner of the land. (This is what happens in the US if you don't pay your property tax.)I agree, but this is a tax on wealth. Unused wealth but wealth nonetheless.
My grandfather - for his peculiar reasons - sat on a small piece of wasteland for thirty years rejecting all monetary offers from neighbours to buy him out. It’s finally being sorted by his heirs nearly a decade after his death.If these sites were easy and economic to restore, they would have been restored a long time ago.
Not if the tax was allowed to accumulate and was only collected when the property was sold, as appears to be the case with the derelict sites levy. If anything, that would have incentivized him even more strongly not to sell, no?I know a small but significant tax on his behaviour would have led him to act differently.
I agree with you. Unfortunately we don't have the political will in this country to tax the rich. Instead we impose high levels of tax those on moderate incomes.Yeah. But the only way to enforce such a tax is to seize the wealth — the state takes over the land, auctions it, uses the auction proceeds to pay the outstanding tax liabilities and pay the costs of the proceedings and the auction, and then remits any balance to the former owner of the land. (This is what happens in the US if you don't pay your property tax.)
It's very unlikely that doing this at scale would be politically acceptable in Ireland.
A lot of people who own derelict sites affected by the DSL are not particularly rich, in income terms. If we did have a policy of enforcing by seizure and sale, the great bulk of those who would actually have their land seized would be owners who didn't have the cashflow to avert this by paying the levy — i.e. they don't have much income and, often, they wouldn't have much in the way of other assets apart from this site.I agree with you. Unfortunately we don't have the political will in this country to tax the rich. Instead we impose high levels of tax those on moderate incomes.
Income is not a measure of wealth. The ownership of capital is a measure of wealth. I think what you mean to say is that many wealthy people have low incomes and choose to hold their wealth in illiquid assets.A lot of people who own derelict sites affected by the DSL are not particularly rich, in income terms.
Yep, I think that is the main problem. The State is legislating around the edges of the problem because it is the problem and it is unable and unwilling to fix itself.The basic problem right now is that speculative property development is generally uneconomic, risky and difficult to finance.
The State is legislating around the edges of the problem because it is the problem and is unable and unwilling to fix itself.
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