Why don't Dunnes Stores round up/ down?

deanpark

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Dunnes Stores continue to give 2c and 1c in the change - both in person and at the self service machines. After the universal take up of rounding in Ireland for several years, why is Dunnes an outlier? Is it due to their accounting systems aren't geared up for rounding? I thought that rounding is "the law of the land"? Or is it just voluntary? It's not a big issue but a minor gripe of mine as a regular customer of theirs.
 

EasilyAmused

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What surprises me is that you are using cash/coins! Especially in a large multiple. And even more especially during the pandemic.
A number of places I know only accept card payments at present during the pandemic. I’m not sure if they’ll revert to cash/coins.

I lived in rural Ireland when the rounding was introduced but I’d say only half of places there used to round their prices.
It’s not mandatory and customers may demand their correct change.
 

Monbretia

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What surprises me is that you are using cash/coins! Especially in a large multiple. And even more especially during the pandemic.
A number of places I know only accept card payments at present during the pandemic. I’m not sure if they’ll revert to cash/coins.
I use all cash again now, briefly resorted to card during early pandemic as there were a couple of local shops doing card only, all have reverted back now and take cash no problem. Was it Woodies I think or some one of the diy chains I frequent that had a card only policy for a while, can't remember at this stage.

I do most of my grocery shopping in Dunnes, never noticed that they don't round!
 

grenzgebiet

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Very glad that Dunnes Stores do NOT round up.
In order to break even with rounding one has to avoid buying one or two items - ie always buy MORE than two items - if they are priced at €X.99.
I find that I quite frequently want just one - or maybe two items - thereby potentially loosing 1.0 or 2.0 cents per transaction.
(I don't think I have ever seen anything priced at €X.01 ?)

So - in a country with a population of roughly 4 million, say a quarter of them buy a single item for €X.99 per week. That's one million cents, or ten thousand euro which has been 'rounded up'.
I would imagine that that's not unrealistic.
So €10,000 per week ends up in the accounts of Tesco, Aldi or what ever - just because we don't ask for the cent in change and put it in the nearest Charity box.
If we did - I'm sure Vincent de Paul or RSPCA or whatever your favourite charity is - wouldn't say no to ten grand per week.

I would personally prefer to avoid 'rounding' and get retail to introduce honest pricing - for example €5.00 and NOT a 'pretend' €4.99 - to make things sound cheaper.
 

Gordon Gekko

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Very glad that Dunnes Stores do NOT round up.
In order to break even with rounding one has to avoid buying one or two items - ie always buy MORE than two items - if they are priced at €X.99.
I find that I quite frequently want just one - or maybe two items - thereby potentially loosing 1.0 or 2.0 cents per transaction.
(I don't think I have ever seen anything priced at €X.01 ?)

So - in a country with a population of roughly 4 million, say a quarter of them buy a single item for €X.99 per week. That's one million cents, or ten thousand euro which has been 'rounded up'.
I would imagine that that's not unrealistic.
So €10,000 per week ends up in the accounts of Tesco, Aldi or what ever - just because we don't ask for the cent in change and put it in the nearest Charity box.
If we did - I'm sure Vincent de Paul or RSPCA or whatever your favourite charity is - wouldn't say no to ten grand per week.

I would personally prefer to avoid 'rounding' and get retail to introduce honest pricing - for example €5.00 and NOT a 'pretend' €4.99 - to make things sound cheaper.
Do that many people pay with cash these days though?
 

deanpark

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Very glad that Dunnes Stores do NOT round up.
In order to break even with rounding one has to avoid buying one or two items - ie always buy MORE than two items - if they are priced at €X.99.
I find that I quite frequently want just one - or maybe two items - thereby potentially loosing 1.0 or 2.0 cents per transaction.
(I don't think I have ever seen anything priced at €X.01 ?)

So - in a country with a population of roughly 4 million, say a quarter of them buy a single item for €X.99 per week. That's one million cents, or ten thousand euro which has been 'rounded up'.
I would imagine that that's not unrealistic.
So €10,000 per week ends up in the accounts of Tesco, Aldi or what ever - just because we don't ask for the cent in change and put it in the nearest Charity box.
If we did - I'm sure Vincent de Paul or RSPCA or whatever your favourite charity is - wouldn't say no to ten grand per week.

I would personally prefer to avoid 'rounding' and get retail to introduce honest pricing - for example €5.00 and NOT a 'pretend' €4.99 - to make things sound cheaper.
But the rounding also goes in customers' favour so theres no windfall that "ends up in the accounts of Tesco" etc Unless I'm missing something?!
 

SparkRite

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But the rounding also goes in customers' favour so theres no windfall that "ends up in the accounts of Tesco" etc Unless I'm missing something?!

Have lost count the amount of times in the two well known German supermarkets that the likes of €9.97 would not be rounded down. Then when I ask about it besides the look of surprise, the change is ALWAYS in 1c coins instead of a 5c coin.
Totally defeating the 'spirit' of the rounding scheme and done for one purpose only !
 

grenzgebiet

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Hallo Deanpark:
My point was that rounding can never go in customers' favour unless they buy more than two items.
If you buy either one or two items priced at X.99, the rounding is always in favour of the supermarket.
So you always loose out if you buy only one thing.
 

Cervelo

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Funny every time I go to Dunnes to do the shopping they round down my bill and not by 1 or 2 cents but 10 Euro
 

huskerdu

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Hallo Deanpark:
My point was that rounding can never go in customers' favour unless they buy more than two items.
If you buy either one or two items priced at X.99, the rounding is always in favour of the supermarket.
So you always loose out if you buy only one thing.
You have literally just invented numbers with no evidence that on average rounding goes in favour of the supermarkets,
 

grenzgebiet

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Hallo Deanpark:
My point was that rounding can never go in customers' favour Unless they buy more than two items.
If you buy either one or two items priced at X.99, the rounding is always in favour of the supermarket.
So you always loose out if you buy only one thing.
 

grenzgebiet

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Hallo Huskerdoo,
No, I have not claimed that at all.
What I said was :
If you buy only ONE item at X.99 then you ALWAYS loose ONE cent.
 

huskerdu

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I don’t agree as you are making sweeping assumptions about the number of transactions that are 99c

it averages over time
 
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