That is a brilliant idea.
It is much safer for me as a cyclist to proceed safely through a red light than to compete with cars when the lights go green.
Dare I suggest that the cyclists should be in the bike lanes, and not out in front of cars on the roads to begin with ?
Dare I suggest that the cyclists should be in the bike lanes, and not out in front of cars on the roads to begin with ?
Whoever decided to put cyclists in front of cars at traffic lights is responsible for causing a lot of problems. It's pure stupidity, in a petty effort to try and elevate the cyclist above all other commuters.
It's pure stupidity, in a petty effort to try and elevate the cyclist above all other commuters.
I cycle and I'm a driver in a city. I prefer as a driver and a cyclist that bikes are in front of cars at traffic lights as otherwise as a driver they can be hard to see. Even with hi viz and lights. Especially when it's dark and raining. Bikes should be allowed turn on red lights to get them out of the way where it is not dangerous to do so. Even with good cycle lanes here I'm always conscious that some drivers don't see us.Could I suggest that you hire a bike for a week and see why most of the time cyclists do use bike lanes, but some of the time they don't. It shouldn't take you too long to see.
There is a cyclist stop place at some junctions to make it safe for cyclists to proceed through a junction without having to compete with drivers like yourself who clearly thinks that they should not be on the road at all.
Brendan
You want them where you can see them.
Dare I suggest that the cyclists should be in the bike lanes, and not out in front of cars on the roads to begin with ?
Whoever decided to put cyclists in front of cars at traffic lights is responsible for causing a lot of problems. It's pure stupidity, in a petty effort to try and elevate the cyclist above all other commuters.
Whoever decided to put cyclists in front of cars at traffic lights is responsible for causing a lot of problems. It's pure stupidity, in a petty effort to try and elevate the cyclist above all other commuters.
Could I suggest that you hire a bike for a week and see why most of the time cyclists do use bike lanes, but some of the time they don't. It shouldn't take you too long to see.
There is a cyclist stop place at some junctions to make it safe for cyclists to proceed through a junction without having to compete with drivers like yourself who clearly thinks that they should not be on the road at all.
Brendan
The idea of the advanced stop line & box is that when used correctly, it allows cyclists move off from the lights and quickly filter back left, allowing the quicker ones move ahead and so make space for motorists to then proceed. Without ASLs, it takes much longer for this order to be established and only tempts drivers to attempt to overtake overtaking cyclists, putting the cyclists and other road users in danger.
....As a driver the reality is now it's the least preferred transport. ....
Not at all we should be actively discouraging the use of private cars in the city in favor of public transport and bicycles in an effort to reduce congestion and emissions. Parking spaces should be reduced by 30% over say five years, parking fines doubled or trebled and the number cars allowed enter the city restricted so that a new car may only enter when one exists....
While that concept may make sense from the cyclists point of view, it results in delays for the large majority of commuters, and time costs money etc.
That's before we consider the potential risks for cyclists placed in that box at a junction ahead of the cars (be it from motorists traveling across in front of them, or the risk taking cyclists breaking the lights having nicely been positioned ahead of other road users etc.).
Better cycle lanes removes the need for the advance stop line and box, while facilitating the cyclists and the other motorists.
I would not risk getting on a bike around Dublin city as I think it's too dangerous... and I blame bad infrastructure for that
While you are correct that I don't think cyclists should be on the road, that is in the context of them not being on the road because roads are for cars, buses etc.
Likewise, I don't think cyclists should be on footpaths, because they are for pedestrians. Bikes should be in specific, "ring fenced" bike lanes, kept entirely clear from other commuters, regardless of whether they are in a car, on a bus, or walking. That way, everyone gets to progress in relative safety.
An example off the top of my head, is this nonsense that they've carried on with, with regards to the proposed bike lane along Fairview (Dublin 3), rather than do the sensible thing and put the cycle lane through Fairview park (alongside the pedestrian footpaths already there, easily lit up, safe from traffic, not taking away valuable limited road space etc.), they've proposed several other stupid alternatives.
If that motorist has three kids and earns say €50,000 a year they are still net recipients from the State. Should someone with no kids who earns €150,000 a year get priority because of their vastly greater net tax contribution?Motorists pay a very high price to use their cars, contribute significant ongoing revenue to the state for the benefit of using their cars, then have the likes of the DCC remove their already limited road space.
The whole "motorists pay road tax and cyclists don't" is a stupid argument.
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