When Mary Lou is Taoiseach...

There will be a house for every one.

(Who will write the next line.)
they will be built by the enemies , the bourgeoisie
they will be adorned with murals of Marx, Adams and Sands
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The Shinners are just clones of Fianna Fáil from the early 70’s; great grass roots organisations, republican(ish), populist pseudo-socialist and with economic policies that will devastate the country.
SF Party members are far more heavily involved in criminality than FF were in the 70’s and FF weren’t a front for a terrorist organisation but policy wise and organisationally they are very similar.
 
The Shinners are just clones of Fianna Fáil from the early 70’s; great grass roots organisations, republican(ish), populist pseudo-socialist and with economic policies that will devastate the country.
SF Party members are far more heavily involved in criminality than FF were in the 70’s and FF weren’t a front for a terrorist organisation but policy wise and organisationally they are very similar.
And its not as if if ant of the mainstream parties have devastated the economy in the past ! . Oh wait 2008 anyone ? . :oops:
 
And its not as if if ant of the mainstream parties have devastated the economy in the past ! . Oh wait 2008 anyone ? . :oops:
I think that one's been done to death. Suffice to say that when Bertie the socialist was increasing spending in an already overheated economy all the Shinners did , along with most of the opposition, was shout "More!".
Politics should be based on pragmatism, not ideology. The further you get from the centre the more ideology polluted logic and reason.
 
Everything will be grand, cheap housing, health service sorted, all vaccinated and marching on to a united Ireland with the unionists fully on board. And some pigs just flew by my window....................
 
I think that one's been done to death. Suffice to say that when Bertie the socialist was increasing spending in an already overheated economy all the Shinners did , along with most of the opposition, was shout "More!".
Politics should be based on pragmatism, not ideology. The further you get from the centre the more ideology polluted logic and reason.
When the car is driven into a brick wall it is the drivers fault. No point in telling the judge " the gang in the back were telling me to go faster "
 
When the car is driven into a brick wall it is the drivers fault. No point in telling the judge " the gang in the back were telling me to go faster "
I agree but suggesting the outcome would have been different if any one of the other jokers was at the wheel is nonsense. Richard Bruton was the only politician who stood up in the Dail and said that we were heading for a crash and that our pro-cyclical economic policies would ensure that crash was worse. He got a Masters in Economics from Oxford, studying Irish government debt so, obviously, he never got the job of Finance Minister.
 
I agree but suggesting the outcome would have been different if any one of the other jokers was at the wheel is nonsense. Richard Bruton was the only politician who stood up in the Dail and said that we were heading for a crash and that our pro-cyclical economic policies would ensure that crash was worse. He got a Masters in Economics from Oxford, studying Irish government debt so, obviously, he never got the job of Finance Minister.
The reason he never got the job of Finance Minister is because months before the 2011 election which would have given him the job, he tried to oust Enda Kenny. Had he succeeded he would been Taoiseach, but he failed and was lucky not to have been put on the back benches.

I think the country was lucky to get Michael Noonan rather than RB as Minister for Finance at that time. Temperamentally Noonan was much better suited.
 
When Mary Lou is Taoiseach she will face the difficulty of trying to deliver on the expectations of her supporters.

I have no doubt she will be able to achieve a certain amount by changing government priorities in line with her political philosophy and supporters wants. But putting more cash and political attention into housing and health will only go so far, feeding a dysfunctional system will not bring about the change that she wants.

Can SF design a housing system that will dramatically increase supply. The conditions are ripe, with interest rates on the floor, cash is not the problem. However the hard problems of labour supply, a totally inadequate planning system, and a messed up financing system cannot be wished away.
Politics should be based on pragmatism, not ideology. The further you get from the centre the more ideology polluted logic and reason.
SF has a pragmatic wing, none of the leading SF figures Mary Lou herself, Pearse Doherty or Eoin O Broin seem to me wild eyed ideologues.
 
When Mary Lou is Taoiseach she will face the difficulty of trying to deliver on the expectations of her supporters.

I have no doubt she will be able to achieve a certain amount by changing government priorities in line with her political philosophy and supporters wants. But putting more cash and political attention into housing and health will only go so far, feeding a dysfunctional system will not bring about the change that she wants.

Can SF design a housing system that will dramatically increase supply. The conditions are ripe, with interest rates on the floor, cash is not the problem. However the hard problems of labour supply, a totally inadequate planning system, and a messed up financing system cannot be wished away.

SF has a pragmatic wing, none of the leading SF figures Mary Lou herself, Pearse Doherty or Eoin O Broin seem to me wild eyed ideologues.
I agree with most of that. When you ignore the terrorist baggage, backers and puppet masters they are like FF from the 1970's; left wing, republican and very populist. It should be remembered what damage that brand of politics did back then. SF are not going to take on the systemic dysfunction. They can't or they'll be attacking their newer supporters. We'll end up with massively more debt with very little to show for it as we move into a period of higher interest rates.
 
Thankfully, if such a dark day happens, it will be a coalition government and will unlikely last more than 15 months.

Covid has given us good preparation for 15 months of hell.

:D
 
If Mary Lou joined either of the other two major parties she would be a shoo in for Taoiseach .....:D
 
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