Yes, imposed rigourously in my GP's practice, a single issue per visit. "Doc, I've broken both me legs." "Right so, I'll fix one today and come back with the other tomorrow." Sorry
Is it? If you break both your legs, your first thought is to look for a GP appointment?That is a very good example of how stupid that rule is. Perhaps its just me but €70 to perhaps ask one quick question and get a possible yes/no answer is disgraceful.
No it doesn't. In a large practice most of that is paid for by the State.It is never "€70 to perhaps ask one quick question and get a possible yes/no answer". That money pays for the doctor, the receptionists, practice manager, equipment, premises, utilities, and so on.
Or just good value.People want GPs to be available immediately, friendly, professional, no delays but giving them as much time as they want, patient, good communicators, fully trained, up to date on all conditions and medications, etc. etc.... but also cheap...?
Yea, kind of but not really.The moment a doctor engages with you they have a duty of care that is governed by law and by a professional regulator.
Most of it is simple, the odd time it's complicated and most of those times you will be sent to a specialist.Years of education and experience make interactions seem simple.
True.That's the case for any skilled job and you are charged accordingly because if something goes wrong then the consequences can be devastating for all involved.
13.7 minutes.Don't want the thread to break the posting guidelines by discussing medical matters but just wondering generally how much time people are allowed for their visits to G.P.s these days?
Nice money but as you’ve said - hard work.13.7 minutes.
The average fee is €53. That works out at €232 an hour.
The average GMS income per GP is €170,000 a year after costs (staff, overheads etc). Basically the GMS covers all of their costs and gives them a personal income of €170,000 a year. Their private income is on top of that.
During Covid they would have made an additional €100,000 to €150,000 on top of that. I used to me married to a GP. She works hard and has a large practice and her income would be above average.
There are around 2,500 GP's in Ireland but 4,500 doctors working in general practice. You have to be a qualified GP to have a GMS list but you can be a "generalist" (have no specialist training) and work for a GP in a larger practice. Only one GP in the practice has to actually be qualified as a GP.
An established GP running their own practice will earn between €250,000 and €400,000 a year.
So is bricklaying.Nice money but as you’ve said - hard work.
No it doesn't. In a large practice most of that is paid for by the State.
Vicky Pollard is only trotting after you.Yea, kind of but not really.
Most of it is simple, the odd time it's complicated and most of those times you will be sent to a specialist.
Despite having worked at both jobs, I'm no wiser as to the point you're making.So is bricklaying.
Agreed, we can only talk about averages.Different practices have different costs and a different proportion of private/GMS. Many would not be viable if they depended on GMS alone.
I hope she's not close behind.Vicky Pollard is only trotting after you.
Gruelling? Is there a Vicky Pollard equivalent I can reference in relation to hyperbole?If most of it is simple and GPs earn such huge wages, I wonder why other folk spend 10+ years in gruelling training to do hospital specialties when GP is such a cushy number. Mystery.
Have you? Really?Despite having worked at both jobs, I'm no wiser as to the point you're making.
I didn't know that!You have to be a qualified GP to have a GMS list but you can be a "generalist" (have no specialist training) and work for a GP in a larger practice. Only one GP in the practice has to actually be qualified as a GP.
Yes, that's where the lie continuously trotted out by GP's about long working hours and lack of resourced comes from. It's up there with the lie they tell about how many medical graduates emigrate after graduation. Emigration is leaving ones own country, the vast majority of graduates who leave are actually returning to their own country.I didn't know that!
Some people like interacting with people and helping many of them lead better lives.EVERY DAY, of interacting with moaning/sick/depressed/overanxious parents of children/hypochondriac people must be mentally very draining.
I don't think there's a GP in Ireland who spends 8-9 hours a day, seven days a week, seeing patients.I have often said that being a GP must be one of the worst highly paid jobs in the world: 8-9 hours a day, EVERY DAY, of interacting with moaning/sick/depressed/overanxious parents of children/hypochondriac people must be mentally very draining.
I would have thought that the number of GP's needing help themselves at some stage must be quite high.
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