So the lesson that the Irish government want us to pass on to our children is -
get a job in the Public Sector,
get a job in the bank,
get a job in the ESB
The big difference between public and private sector is that in the private sector, reduced revenue is generally a sign of reduced demand. In the public sector, there is no such link, and indeed in some cases, less revenue means higher demand for services.
The services still need to be provided.
The services still need to be provided.
Yes, some of them do but most of them, if they think about it, realise that this is not the case and while some sectors did very well indeed on average the public sector did better than the private sector.Some public servants are living in the land of make believe. They think everybody else got the benefit of the celtic tiger. They think they are hard done by.
Well I suppose we'll just have to get used to our public services not giving it 110% (120%?), I'm not sure how we can prepare ourselves for such a bewildering event. Counselling perhaps?... have no intention of going the further mile as they have gladly done in the past.
Well I suppose we'll just have to get used to our public services not giving it 110% (120%?), I'm not sure how we can prepare ourselves for such a bewildering event. Counselling perhaps?
Let me give an examplle to clarify my comments.
Two teachers who work in the same school are friends of mine , post work they coach and manage the school soccer team who play in inter schools tournaments , they also do the same for a school based under age team who compete in the local junior league playing on Saturdays and training on Wednesdays.
They have now decided that they have better things to be doing with their free time and have told the parents that if the teams are to continue then volunteers to pick up the slack will have to be found.
This has caused absolute uproar !
Tough on the kids I know but that is the level of anger out there.
I really don't understand why a teacher would do that. I know many GAA coaches are teachers and as far as I know they are not giving that up.
They have now decided that they have better things to be doing with their free time...
In fairness to the two teachers involved they have done it for over 20 years and are just so disillusioned at the moment that their hearts just are not in it and feel that it's now up to the parents to lend a hand.
I also play 5 a side with a number of teachers who tell me that they are considering either doing the same or cutting down the number of hours they contribute , this crosses both codes - GAA and soccer.
I suspect you haven't used taxcalc.eu to support your view that you're down 20%,.
Exaggerating the severity of the cuts only lessens sympathy for what was genuinely a substantial pay cut.
I've done plenty of voluntary work over the years, maybe not thousands but certainly over a 1000. As it is voluntary and not directly related to my job I don't seek to get some sort of indirect payment for it... otherwise it wouldn't really be voluntary, would it?Absolutely.
A combination of anger , disillusionment and bitterness.
We have the best paid teachers in the OECD. Only Greece has a shorter school year. It can be a stressful job but the very long holidays, short hours, good pension, paid sick leave, career breaks and (still) very high pay should at least make up for that.Allied perhaps to a sense that the thousands of voluntary hours they have contributed have gone unrecognised in the rush to portray them as pariahs who do little or nothing to earn their wages.
"....the Irish economy just doesn't have the money to keep paying you at the rates we were. It's as simple as that."
Absolutely.
A combination of anger , disillusionment and bitterness.
Allied perhaps to a sense that the thousands of voluntary hours they have contributed have gone unrecognised in the rush to portray them as pariahs who do the bare minimuml to earn their wages.
Thedaras
The two men in question are in their fifties and have been in charge of the two teams I alluded to for over twenty years , both teams were in existence prior to their employment - does it really matter on what basis the school teaam started as long as it's an outlet for the kids ?
I can quite understand why they have given it up , their pay has been unilaterally cut , their voluntary contributions are unappreciated/unrecognised and yes they are angry , time to do those little jobs around the house and perhaps to get out for a few pints with the missus on a wednesday night ! - as you say time for the parents to give a hand.
You're right , your sister has a great job - swanning of to France ( the cheek of her ) , I'm nearly as envious of her as you obviously are !
Surely the only "relevant factors" in claiming there's been a 20% net decrease in pay due to government intervention, are tax, levies and pay cuts. In some cases hours and overtime could be down but you weren't claiming that.taking account of any other relevant factors that may have affected the bottom line. I've been doing this for years, now. Silly me.
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