TheBigShort
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Ooh my poor head.i
What difference is there between bitcoin gold and bitcoin diamond.
Bitcoin gold is trading at $380 at the moment, bitcoin diamond at $54.
I can understand, just about, why people might think that there is value in Bitcoin. I cannot understand why they see more value in bitcoin gold than bitcoin diamond. Unless there is some technical difference which I am not aware of.
Oh I suppose 540 is closer to 380 than 54Well, bitcoin diamond split multiplies user holdings by 10.
Bitcoin gold was just 1:1
So if you had 1 BTC you get 1 bitcoin gold. And you will get 10 bitcoin diamond, whenever those are released.
The current price is for futures, but multiply it by 10 and they get closer to each other.
Oh I suppose 540 is closer to 380 than 54
This is getting comical. No criticism of you ant dee. Yourself and fpalb are making Trojan efforts to help me achieve my goal of 15% understanding. Please don’t despair just yet.
I could lose all my crypto - stake if its all a house of cards falling down, it will hardly affect my life anyway.
I am not advising anyone to buy or sell, hell I don't even mention it on friends and family. They will either think I am a billionaire or a scammer and who has time to explain all this?
Certainly in border counties in Ireland it is generally the local traders who set the value of each currency.
Can we keep this thread to bitcoin cash and subsequent forks.
If your private key was created before the fork occured, then that key 'unlocks' an equal amount of coins on both chains.I understand bitcoin holders before Aug 1st have an equal number of bitcoin cash. So the fall in bitcoin price sort of matches the rise in bitcoin cash. Does bitcoin cash count towards the 21m limit or does it have a 21m limit of its own?
Bitcoin Cash is described by Wikipedia as a coin split by a hard fork. It was the first such split in August. It has been described as free money. Another followed in October, another in November now three so far in December.
So my question remains do these increase the 21m supply limit?
If they behave like share splits (overall value of shares stays the same) is this not a serious threat to the futures price?
You can't really spend your Bitcoin on the Bcash chain and vis versa.
They are two separate blockchains that share a common transaction history, up until the point that Bcash forked.Thanks for that explanation man0war, but im reading that somewhat ambiguously. Can you or can you not spend bitcoin on bcash chain and vice versa?
It reads somewhat like officially you cant spend £stg in Ireland, but you can really if you know how to do it, or where to go.
Also, is it possible to buy bcash with btc without using a trusted third party?
None of the other forks matter - bitcon gold, diamond etc are all just garbage and not worth talking about, they'll have trivial adoption if any.
where would be without those gems from B/S?
You're way over-estimating them. For example Bitcoin Gold released a wallet with malware designed to steal bitcoins. These are just like the new garbage alt-coins that are released daily. Bitcoin Cash was the only fork that had any kind of significant support.You say bitcoin gold, diamond etc are garbage.
Can I assume that that is because at its core, bitcoin is fundamentally sound, but that yes, if people want, they can still disagree and change periphery details of the system?
Simply put bitcoin itself is a way to reach consensus, it has even been named 'Nakamoto Consensus'. The software you choose to run and the coin you choose to hold and not sell is your vote, and your vote matters in proportion to what impact the software you run has (if you're an exchange or business it's more important than if you're just a user etc). Of course during the scaling debate and before forks were resorted to there were attempts among developers and major stake holders to try and assess what they wanted and find a common solution that would make everyone happy and avoid a fork. There were multiple conferences and eventually the New York Agreement which some people later reneged on.Excellent stuff fpalb. Great illustration of network effect using AAM. The difference between AAM and Bitcoin is that AAM is networking something, where would be without those gems from B/S? Bitcoin is networking numbers on a ledger.
I think the Protesant Reformation best matches this forking business. The Catholic church survived intact, the fork went in all sorts of directions.
Still getting round this consensus thing..... I presume there wasn't any such thing as an online vote taken, or was there?
Users can hold both bitcoin and bcash, or choose to sell one or the other, or both. Some users did dump all their bitcoin and buy bcash instead for example. For exchanges it's easy and most profitable to just support both no need to take a risk by trying to pick a winner. Miners however, can only dedicate units of mining power towards either one or the other at any given time, but miners for the most part tend to follow the money, so the proportion of how the old mining power gets distributed to bitcoin or bitcoin cash should generally follow the ratio of their market prices (because why would miners mine at a loss). It's easy for miners to change on a whim though, if bitcoin cash doubles in price, twice as much mining power might switch over to it. A lot of high profile bitcoiners, some of whom are large holders, publicly backed one side or the other.So some nodes decided to split and process big blocks., Did these nodes also continue to process the mainstream blocks?
I didn't get involved in the war beyond a little bit of debating online, but for the most part it's too crazy to participate in. The demographics that crypto appeals to makes it worse, lots of conspiracy theorists, libertarians who hate anyone telling them what to do, nerds who are used to being the smartest people in the room and always being right and then all of the above lacking social and diplomacy skills and humility. It's not worth my wasting my time arguing with them.You seem to have been involved in the civil war
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