https://www.irishtimes.com/news/edu...or-special-needs-children-dangerous-1.3298467
A short sighted policy.
Special needs education has gotten out of hand in this country.
How do we know we are looking after them properly and how do we know we are getting any value for money?If we don't look after children with special needs now it will end up costing us a lot more in the long run..
How do we know we are looking after them properly and how do we know we are getting any value for money?
I agree that we have to look after them, nobody will disagree with that, but where's the evidence that what we are doing is working as intended? Do we even know if there is a "as intended"?
I was in that situation and it was a great help. All I can offer is my specific unqualified opinion. That's not an empirical measurement and says nothing about value for money.I don't know what standard they work to but I guess there has to be one, the evidence of whether what they are doing is actually working would first be seen by the teachers and parents of the children. anyone I know who is in that situation seem to speak highly of the work they do..
I agree; I'd also like to think it works. I'd like to think we are getting value for money. I'd like evidence and a system in place controlling the spend and making sure that children in question are getting the absolute best possible care and education. That can only be don't if we are measuring and controlling waste.Isn't it just the educational aspect of the "care in the community" philosophy. i.e. we don't put people in the big house with the high walls (or as many special schools), so we look after them more so in mainstream educational and health care. That takes manpower. Overall I'd like to think it works, making the mainstream more tolerant as well as hopefully bringing on the weaker kids, hard to know of course. But there's a big mantra that the early years are the most important, that we spend way less that the European average etc.
Fixed that for youRe Uni - the academic community always whining about worldwide league tables. If they're that great why dont these academics go off to the Ivy League - I've no great interest in funding their vanity. Keep pumping out low quality graduates and get over yourselves.
My sons SNA was cut because resources were reallocated into pay increases for teachers so it was a relatively short lived experience. As a parent I am not trained or experienced enough to know if the SNA was good or excellent or just okay. I know that having one was significantly better than not having one but that tells me nothing about whether they were meeting their potential and helping my son reach his.If the Special Needs Assistants were not doing their jobs properly the parents of the special needs children would be (and rightly so) complaining and our media would be full of such.
What more evidence do you need?
If the Special Needs Assistants were not doing their jobs properly the parents of the special needs children would be (and rightly so) complaining and our media would be full of such.
What more evidence do you need?
Spending less on third level than special needs education, prioritises present needs over investment for the future. Strange priorities I think.
The 20 year old in third level education may be contributing €57.69 a week towards their education but it comes nowhere near covering the cost of that education. If they are doing something like an engineering degree it's only a fraction of the cost. If it's an arts degree it comes closer but when they are finished they'll cost the State €100 a week anywayA 20 year old who is not working gets €100 a week from the state, a 20 year old in third level education is expected to pay €57.69 a week to the state for her education.
1. If our Special Needs Assistants fall down on the job the progressive effects can be catastrophic to the education for everybody in the classroom. Furthermore, this manifests itself outside of school hours. SNAs are probably the most important contact in schools to parents of the special needs child. If this were not the case, do the parents of the special needs child (a) Give complete trust to the teacher (b) Give complete trust to the principal (c) Give any kind of trust to the education system? Take the SNA out of the situation and look at what is left. Hint:- For a start it is likely we would have one parent working instead of two. Repeat:- And that's only for a start........... My concern was not about the quality of special needs education, though that of course is a very important issue. I would think that some comments to the effect that all is well are complacent.
Irish language teachers are demonstrably not doing their jobs properly, yet there is no public outcry.
My concern is that we are failing to support third level education. .......... Strange priorities I think.
Our teachers don't educate... Our teachers are there to assist on the maximum amount of points a student can achieve for entry to university. If you believe anything else you are deluded.
So Irish language teachers are useless.Despite our years in school, we are not all fluent in Irish. So what!
I think it would be more correct to say that the way in which we teach Irish is not fit for purpose.So Irish language teachers are useless.
If that is your experience of teaching in recent years I think you are lucky. Most teachers engage in crowd control and social care. This is policy. "Wellness", has more hours timetabled at junior cycle than any other subject.
So Irish language teachers are useless.
I had considered expressing it in terms like this. However teachers are central to the entire system of teaching Irish. I think absolving them of responsibility by referring to “the way in which we teach Irish” is missing the point.I think it would be more correct to say that the way in which we teach Irish is not fit for purpose.
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