It amazes me sometimes when I can't see the trees for the woods and then somebody says something and bang there it is!!Should be easy enough to calculate Cervelo. Just take a note of the 3 meter readings and multiply by the rates.
Is it true that you can never switch back? or switch to a day/night rate once you've switched to a smart rate?
Well you learn something new everyday, I thought that with a smart meter you only had one choice of tariff but from what I've just read and can see on Electric Ireland the are multiple tariffs including the single daily rate which you seem to be onI am on the smart rate with electric Ireland. Bill shows only one rate 21.12 cents
So at over 20k kWhr per year gas usage there may be some easy wins on the usage side of the equation. Assuming, like most households this usage is mostly for space heating, have you thought about improving the heat loss characteristics of the house, heating system controls etc?But what has really struck me as odd is the gas rate that I'm been quoted on the Smart plan, why is it at a higher rate then the normal rate??
even though the difference is minuscule €0.0094 per unit it would now add about €200 to my yearly gas bill which would far exceed any savings to be made from the smart meter
I was probably a little over zealous in quoting "around €200" current usage for this year is 14689kwh, so we probably average 15k per yearSo at over 20k kWhr per year gas usage there may be some easy wins on the usage side of the equation. Assuming, like most households this usage is mostly for space heating, have you thought about improving the heat loss characteristics of the house, heating system controls etc?
Might be some easy wins there.
As far as I'm aware there is no difference in the additional charges between a smart meter account and a normal one with Bord GaisI presume the smart meter rates include the current Standard Charge which EI and one other are 25% dearer than the rest at the moment.
I am on the smart rate with electric Ireland. Bill shows only one rate 21.12 cents
Well you learn something new everyday, I thought that with a smart meter you only had one choice of tariff but from what I've just read and can see on Electric Ireland the are multiple tariffs including the single daily rate which you seem to be on
It seems each supplier can set there own Smart tariffs and bill accordingly, in EI case there are three, a single daily rate, a day & night rate with a night boost and a day & night rate with a peak rate
environmental !! I wouldn't be basing my decisisions on that because when wind power is on the system is highly variable. Currently 98% of supply is coming from thermal power stations, circa 10% is coming from renewables (probably hydro mostly) and 9% is being exported (-9% net import) according to the Eirgrid data tableSo is there any conclusion to all this?
1) From a selfish point of view - don't switch to the smart meter.
2) From the environmental point of view, switch to the smart meter.
Brendan
When the opposite happens on a very windy day and there is an ambulance of clean energy the people with smart meters should be offered very cheap or even free electricity
Unfortunately in Ireland the idea of giving the ordinary citizen a break doesn't exist.
environmental !! I wouldn't be basing my decisisions on that because when wind power is on the system is highly variable. Currently 98% of supply is coming from thermal power stations, circa 10% is coming from renewables (probably hydro mostly) and 9% is being exported (-9% net import) according to the Eirgrid data table
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