Title Deeds

As the executor for my elderly mother, I am concerned that the family have no knowledge either of the location of the title deeds of the family home, or the solicitor involved. The home was purchased by my parents in the 1950's in Drimnagh, Dublin from a company called Associated Properties. Does anybody know how I can reconstitute the appropriate title deeds, please?

Depends on where the title is registered - Land Registry or Registry of Deeds. Both systems are completely different.

As a first step, why not seek advice from your own solicitor who can do quick on-line search in the Land Registry - alternatively you go into their offices on Nassau Street, and they should be able to tell you which registry.

1. As advised above by Juke , check on PRA map of area.

2. If it is not registered in PRA get as much information as you can re the date of your mothers purchase and how it was financed.

3 If you know where she got the mortgage the lender may still have the deeds or copies, or names of solicitors then involved etc

4. Ask your solicitor to search in the Registry of Deeds against the names of all the parties - vendors, purchasers, mortgagors. This should produce a " memorial" which is an extract of the conveyance or mortgage and could be used as part of the title documentation.

5. If still no luck, contact one of the immediate neighbours, as the title up to 1950 might be common to both.

6. If no documents of title can be found you can apply to PRA for registration of the title based on long possession - see your solicitor.

Thank you very much for help. I would prefer not to have solicitor involved, mainly because I have handled my own divorce, house purchase and other processes myself and don't want to hand over fees to third party unless really necessary. I will start with the Land Registry as advised and see where I go from there. I was hoping that somebody would advise as to the entire contents of Title Deeds so that I would have a check list of documentation I need, which I could then hopefully pursue and collect myself. Using a solicitor means a fee based on a process which is probably fairly standard and which their admin staff generally do anyway.

OK best of luck with it if you have the time and patience. However reconstituting a title is often not "fairly standard" nor is it usually done by solicitors' "admin staff". enjoy.

nuac said:

OK best of luck with it if you have the time and patience. However reconstituting a title is often not "fairly standard" nor is it usually done by solicitors' "admin staff". enjoy.

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And enjoying paying for the bond too...

juke said:

And enjoying paying for the bond too...

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What bond?

An insurance policy for lost deeds (which is normally required for a sale) - a good solicitor (but maybe not their admin staff) would explain....

Eithneangela said:

I was hoping that somebody would advise as to the entire contents of Title Deeds so that I would have a check list of documentation I need

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If we could just check off our deeds against a list, there wouldn't be any need for solicitors to deal with these matters. It is rarely as simple as this, and there is not really any such thing as "entire contents of Title Deeds" as they will vary dramatically from one title to another.

If you can locate the property in the Land Registry it is possible that you could get some way on your own, but in a Registry of Deeds situation it is much more complicated. I would strongly disagree that this is something that would be done by admin staff in a solicitors office, and I would recommend that you reassess what you are taking on.

Just as a matter of interest, how did you deal with your own purchase? Presumably you were buying with cash and did not need a mortgage?

Oh FGS, this statement is just ridiculous - "Using a solicitor means a fee based on a process which is probably fairly standard and which their admin staff generally do anyway." What utter utter nonsense. And if you did complete the purchase of your house yourself, which I doubt, you're not going to discover the problems until you go to sell it!

Eithneangela, all i can say is best of luck you'll need it! they don't call it a "profession" for nothing, if it was fairly standard any ole JO on the street could do it! i just hope you'll be able to sell property when you've pieced together the title!!!!!!!!! as a matter of interest how did you give undertakings on selling & purchasing your properties???