Time off for Christmas shopping in public service.


One company I worked in kept a record of every day they'd ever been open and business done etc. Therefore they could forcast which days were worth staying open and which days just weren't. Always surprised I haven't seen this kinda of simple record keeping more often. Very few places seem to do it.
 

Thats because its not straightforward. Your trying to make a sweeping general comparision by cherry picking a single criteria (annual leave) and ignoring all other factors (remuneration) which make the comparision invalid.

You can't decide to work in a shop, then complain about working christmas eve, or working long hours. If you don't like it go get a job in an office or something. If you want lots of annual leave get a job as a treacher or something.

Personally I couldn't work as a teacher no matter what the leave, or work in the tax office, or dole office. I also wouldn't work in retail (again) unless I had to.



Purple said:
I agree. I presume you include the public sector workers who were moaning about working Christmas Eve in that group?
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Of course. People are the same everywhere. Public private no difference.
 
AlbacoreA said:
Thats because its not straightforward. Your trying to make a sweeping general comparision by cherry picking a single criteria (annual leave) and ignoring all other factors (remuneration) which make the comparision invalid.
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OK, you are definitely being obtuse. Let me make this as simple as I can; other posters were complaining that they had to work Christmas Eve and were suggesting that those in the private sector who didn't have to work Christmas Eve were better off than them (in the context of holiday leave) because of this. I was pointing out that working or not working Christmas Eve needs to be judged in the context of overall leave. It was a point refuting a point made in isolation about working Christmas Eve. That's it. Nothing else. It really is that simple and straightforward. NOW do you understand???
 
Dear dissenting debaters,

You'd swear the public service closed completely on Christmas Eve - it doesn't -nor Christmas day either - sections do close and sections of private industry close also. Could we not all just agree that leave for public servants needs to be explanatory in a transparent manner so that should questions arise they are easily answered and the current arrangements are not transparent - they are probably fair, but not transparent. If Mr or Ms Private industry or Mr or Ms Public Service are paying taxes that fund services then there is an accountability due of those services to provide reasonable explanations for the manner in which they are delivered and this includes accounting for the deployment of staff. On that note I have a big beef with the bin collectors who unilaterally change the date of collection around Christmas - I'm voting with my money and changing my bin collector
 

No. Because the previous comments also made reference to xmas bonus'es, gifts, disparity of pay, experience of the same leave in the private sector etc.
It makes no sense to take leave in isolation from everything else. Its not top trumps. (or benchmarking for that matter ).
 
Just noticed your post there now Blue Steel and may say - well done, this needed to be said and it brings the meagre pay of the majority of civil servants into perspective compared what has gone on in this country for the last ten years at least
 
Hi rmelly,

By the way , I did mean Blue Steel's post as per below.

 
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