Whatever about the backstop it is vitally important that the common travel area is maintained at all costs. This was a lifeline for ireland during the financial crisis when graduates and tradesmen were able to find work in the uk when our jobs market was non existent. The UK is vital for graduates to get their initial experience, their companies are much bigger and deeper than ours.It is different. It is covered by the free movement agreement between UK and Ireland which is planned to keep - we're not part of Schengen for example and originally the plan was for us to remain out of it for this reason
I understand that but their position has up to now also called out the Ireland / UK free movement agreement and recognised the need to maintain it - which doesn't mean at some point they won't withdraw from that (or threaten to). But for the moment, the position above should be read in conjunction with the free movement agreement.I would have to respectfully disagree. It is set out clearly in the British Government EU Exit document above that taking back control of borders means an end to free movement and new controls for a fairer immigration system.
If there are no border and customs controls required at the UK/EU between NI and RoI, as the DUP claim, then why would there be any need for border and customs controls at the UK/EU borders in Britain?
Just to say - the CTA applies to British and Irish citizens, not EU citizens in general. So free travel continuing is not the same for all residents of the two countries.The CTA isn't a north/south thing and not driven by the DUP. It is an Ireland / UK thing so applies east / west as well as north / south. I'm not sure it is anything to do with the DUP. It is also related to people and not goods or services. So your Polish manager could go up North without checks...
So your Polish manager could go up North without checks - but he couldn't work there. Or probably couldn't drive a construction vehicle through without being stopped and asked about it.
This doesn't sound like the frictionless trade that the DUP are advocating. If I have to hire new staff, that is a cost. Or if my Polish employee needs to apply for a work visa, that is additional burden.The bigger question for you might be whether you will have ability to pitch for jobs up North after Brexit
The whole "frictionless trade" or "nobody wants to put up borders" is a bluff - not just from the DUP. Both governments are saying it as well. But it's politics not reality. Neither side want to put in a position where they are blamed for doing so.This doesn't sound like the frictionless trade that the DUP are advocating....
That is what the backstop is for. To prevent border checks, customs checks, immigration checks. ie keep things the way they are now. It was proposed for Ireland only. The British government applied it to the whole of the UK.The whole "frictionless trade" or "nobody wants to put up borders" is a bluff - not just from the DUP
Here is Nigel DoddsNo deal means some form of cross-border checks
Yes, I've had this discussion with some Unionists (DUP) before. The talk of the whole of Ireland re-joining the UK was proposed. I wasn't against it, I just asked that in exchange, the Home Rule parliament of 1912, as legislated for through the British parliament be implemented. An All-Ireland parliament for a return of Ireland back into the UK.I think the DUP position is that we (as in Ireland the country) should move away from the single market in order to facilitate a frictionless border. After all, we are really British, aren't we?
leo varadker is not helping things by continuing to say that the backstop cant be tweeked, even if he shut up for a while it would be a help. If they are to get the dup on side with a "more acceptable" form of words then they need to stop inflaming things. If the UK crashes out then leo varadker will be in big trouble . Surely he needs to see beyond brexit and the economic turmoil that will hit this countryIdeally, a form of words, as Merkel alluded to, that doesn't see anyone losing face is what is required, but ultimately it will be treating NI separate to the rest of the UK which afterall, is what the DUP are asking for but wont admit to.
Its been a while since I was in Heathrow, but I well remember being "checked" there. Three hours is a locked room with several large men and a woman with a broken Irish accent.On the freedom of movement thing, my understanding is that Irish citizens have, before the EU, during the EU and after the EU the right to migrate to Britain. There are therefore no checks at Ireland/UK entry points.
The backstop is not a constitutional change to NI. That is nothing more than drum-beating from Unionism.that the constitutional position of NI can only change with the consent of a majority in NI, or more crudely the unionists/protestants have a veto on any change.
You may not be so sure, in the same way that im not so sure a Brexit vote would pass pass on a second round. For sure, the over-riding emotive sentiment of the UK leaving the EU still prevails, but it has come unhinged somewhat by the prospect of a no-deal Brexit. Something that was promised would never happen.Now we keep getting reminded that the DUP view on Brexit is a minority one in NI. I am not so sure
It may not have been an issue pre-single market days, but unless you missed the referendum campaigning on Brexit, you might have picked up on a sense that illegal immigration is quite an issue today.there would be no rights to work, social welfare etc. It wasn't an issue pre single market days that there was this different approach to checks between Holyhead and Dover and there is no reason why it should matter in the future.