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I have no firm view on the merits of privatising public services. Can you explain why you think it is bad? As far as I'm aware in parts of Canada the public are given credits to buy their health care from private operators. It appears to work for them. Doesn't a regulated private sector where competition exists benefit the consumer.
the aim of private business is to maximise profit as efficently and cost effectively as possible. I have nothing against that. But apply that to schools and you will end up with a disaster.
Doesn't a regulated private sector where competition exists benefit the consumer
And since our elected reps haven't read it either it's not really surprising that people are going to be voting no!
well if we knew they had read it enterly we might be a bit confident to vote yes....its like a salesman telling you they are selling you a great product, but they are not sure exactly how it works!
I actually think the people were wrong last year. I do believe in democracy but that does not mean that referenda are infallible, if that were the case we would submit the more contentious aspects of Einstein's Theory of Relativity for decision by the Irish voters.Harchibald,
it was the people of this country who voted in the goverment, who are trying to get us to vote for this.
If you are saying we can't be trusted to vote properly then in that case we voted for the wrong govt in. You can't have it both ways
Yes it does but not in education or health in my opinion. and if you want to be defined as a Consumer go ahead. I am a citizen however. Do you notice how ordinary people are being increasing refered to as consumers rather than citizens.
yes but opinions of people who have a lot of expertise, knowledge and a proven history in the area. Back to my doctor analogy. When you have a sick stomach do you regard your doctors opinion as just another opinion on a par with the butchers and priests?but as you have just said..these are opinions....noting more
to awnser the last part of your question...i have not fully made up my mind how i will vote..although i am leaning towards a NO, mainly due to the issues around the privatision of health..edcuation ect. funny how our politiacians have been hedgeing around this issue..but then its hardly going to affect them!
I hope so, but that has nothing to do with the Lisbon treaty.do you really think there is not going be more and more privatisation in the years to come if we vote yes?
The lisbon treaty has nothing to do with privatisation of our health or education service! Do you think closer integration with France (probably the best public health service in the world) is going to result in more privatisation of our health service. Where's the logic
I hope so, but that has nothing to do with the Lisbon treaty.
I suspect there's an element of teachers fearing the private sector where their performance in educating pupils might be measured.
I'm not entirely convinced by the talk of a platonic ideal of education as practiced in Ireland
When you have a sick stomach do you regard your doctors opinion as just another opinion on a par with the butchers and priests?[/QUOTE
So we simply trust our politicians with out questioning them. why have a referendum in the first place if thats the case.
Interesting article from Alan Ruddick in the sindo which i want to quote one particularly good point
The great and the good know what's best for us, and we should just trust them and move on. Well I can't. I do not trust them. I cannot stand being patronised, threatened, bullied and lied to, all at the same time, especially when the people doing the bullying have not bothered to read and understand the very document that they are trying to ram down my throat. That is reason enough to vote No, and it is why so many people have turned against the Lisbon Treaty in the past few weeks. We are being browbeaten, and we do not like it.
http://www.independent.ie/national-news/mad-im-fuming-at-the-lies-they-spin-1401935.html
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