Brendan Burgess
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the practice can help fund organised crime
In Scotland at least there is no official register of cask ownership. Likely same here.
I don't see how that would work. The point about money-laundering is that it involves activities that, in themselves, are legitimate and above-board; hence revenue/profits generated (or apparently generated) by those activities looks clean. It would be a really bad idea to try to launder money through a fraudulent enterprise.Unless they mean that it's used for laundering the proceeds of crime?
Building on my reputation as a crusty old cynic, I'd be inherently suspicious. If somebody comes to me looking for the kind of money you would need to buy one cask, or a small number of casks, of whiskey, I'd be thinking "why are they raising their working capital this way? This has got to be massively inefficient. The overheads of raising money by approaching individual investors for small amounts must really stack up. Irish Distillers doesn't raise money this way; why would the Entirely Legitimate Microdistillery Ltd choose to? They wouldn't be doing this if they could get working capital by more conventional means from professional investors. So, this is probably something professional investors won't touch. Why not?"I don't know how you would check if the promoters were genuine or not.
You cannot regulate against human stupidity.Nor should there be. We have enough regulator bodies without setting up An t-údarás rialála casóg fuisce
If I were in this market I'd be looking for recommendations from people who had previously invested with them, and who had got the promised return at the promised time — preferably people I already knew.
Well we now have police \ Garda time being spent on a fraud investigation instead.Nor should there be. We have enough regulator bodies without setting up An t-údarás rialála casóg fuisce
Good point.Well we now have police \ Garda time being spent on a fraud investigation instead.
No protection from Ponzi schemesI'd be looking for recommendations from people who had previously invested with them, and who had got the promised return at the promised time
I'd be looking for people who have actually held the investment until maturity, and got the payout.This would be problematic as I imagine that people will be getting updates to tell them that their whiskey has gone up by 20% and they believe it.
It'd need to be people you know or can verify... these sort of gangs likely set up fake actors \ personas of such people.I'd be looking for people who have actually held the investment until maturity, and got the payout.
This book is interesting on this topic:these sort of gangs likely set up fake actors \ personas of such people.
It wasn't clear if the casks here were new distilleries, or long standing ones. In Ireland it's a thing for new distilleries, but I think in Scotland there may be long running distillers that do it. It's also a thing eg for a pub or a whisky club to purchase one.Whiskey takes a long time to mature, and a newly-established distillery will operate for several years before they have ready-to-drink whiskey avialable for sale. They need to fund their operations until they have sales revenue, and I think these buy-a-cask schemes are one of the ways in which they try to do that.
Banks are deeply regulated from every possible angle and yet fraud still happens all the time.Well we now have police \ Garda time being spent on a fraud investigation instead.
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