Selling home in equity but need SVR reduced on BTL.

Maz2408

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After 10+ years of what ifs! Stress, anxiety and feeling hopeless. We have decided to sell our PPR to reduce mortgage payments and tackle our 2 Buy to lets mortgage debt.

On the home we are selling we have a €50k mortgage @ ecb+1.25%, just under 7 years remaining. We also have a 1plan mortgage on the home of approximately €100k @ 4.5%SVR just under 13 years left on that one. Monthly mortgage payments on home of €1450.

An offer of €280k made on the home which is fair.

We have two buy to lets both restructured by PTSB over 3 years ago.

House A: Mortgage debt €163,000, value €95,000 - €105,000 just under 17 years left on mortgage.

+1.10% Tracker mortgage, €60k interest only in main account. €103k warehoused at 0.50% interest rate. Rent pm on house A: is currently €550pm, but had no rental income for over a year previous to the new tenant, as it needed a lot of work which could only be completed as and when money was available.

House B: Mortgage debt €184,000, value €155,000 just under 17 years left on mortgage.

A whopping 5.8% SVR, €71,000 in Main account, €113,000 warehoused at 0.50%. Rent pm on house B: currently €650pm.

We could buy a house for the €120k equity after fees, we would release by selling our home, but that wouldn't help us repay the Buy to let mortgage debt.

We know not to pay down the lump sum off House A: the buy to let on the 1.10% tracker, as that would be crazy.

Our only other option assuming no one can suggest an alternative is paying the €120k off House B which we would be fine living in as although not a patch on our current home, it's a good house in a good area: leaving us with a €64,000 mortgage on what would then be our new home.

Mortgages were all sold to Start mortgages at the begining of this year. Problem is, if we sell our home which is not attached in any way to the buy to lets, has never been in arrears or restructured, and we pay the €120,000 off house B: will Start honour the remaining 17 years on the 2 buy to let mortgages which we would then be making full payments on. Or is it likely that they will call in the outstanding debt within the next few years. In our mid 50s with our credit record in shreds, we would never be able to re-mortgage if the loans were called in.

Other concern is the 5.8% interest rate on house B, which would likely be our new home, that interest rate is shockingly high compared to normal interest rates. Again age and credit history would leave us no options of switching.

Would there be any chance that Start would reduce the 5.8% interest rate to a standard rate of interest if selling our home meant current overall mortgage debt was reduced from €497,000 down to €227,000, considering they are getting rid of a remaing 7 year €50k tracker @+1.25% and we would also be making full repayments on the remaining mortgage debt which would be ridding them of interest only payments on restructured main mortgage accounts and €216,000 in warehouse accounts earning them just 0.05% interest.

I would welcome any advice or any other suggestions on options that we may not have thought of or any ideas how to approach Start with any of these possibilities.
 
Your buy to let’s are tied to your main home because you’re liable for the debt.

How much are you paying in mortgage on the investment properties. How long are the current arrangements in place for. We need to know if they are actually costing you.

What is your income. Have you future costs such as university to pay for. You have to give us a lot more detail.

Are you able to transport your cheap 50k tracker.

Your current mortgage is 1450. How much would that have to be reduced to for your financial stress to dissipate.
 
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Hi Maz

Is the following summary correct?

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First of all, you should speak to Start. They have said that they are patient capital and want to keep the mortgage business. In other words, they don't want to repossess houses as vulture funds are portrayed as wanting.

You should ask them to reduce the 4.5% interest on your home loan. Check out the ptsb mortgage rates. As you have an LTV of 53%, you would qualify for a rate of 3.8% if you were still with ptsb. So ask for that rate and see what happens. To be fair to ptsb, you are on a combined rate of 3.4% anyway when you factor in the tracker rate.

Would your problems not be solved if you could rent Investment property A? Or get rid of it? They might do a deal where you sell Property A and add some of the shortfall to your home loan.

Property B is profitable. But they might be happy enough for you to sell that and write off the shortfall or move it onto your home.

That should be your first port of call. Talk to Start.

If you get nowhere with them, then you consult a PIP. They should be able to do a deal for you.

I see no reason why should be forced to sell your current home unless it suits you to do so.

Brendan
 
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Hi Brendan, both buy to lets are now rented out, property A: €550pm = €6,600 pa. Property B: €650pm = €7,800pa.

We're selling for peace of mind, as I said we are mid 50's with current total mortgage debt of €497,000 which we cannot see a way of fully repaying in to the future.

Our income is husbands net pay of around €40k per year.

Husbands job is very physical often working 11 or 12 hour shifts. He's fit and healthy at the moment, but already struggling physically and mentally with the work load. There is no way he can continue this level of work beyond his early 60's, so in a few years time we expect to have a large reduction in income.

We have no Children at home, which makes the decision of moving on easier.

Our main queries are should we buy a house outright with the equity from sale, which doesn't address the debt on buy to lets or should we pay the equity off buy to let B and make that our home. We would also like to know if Start would be willing to reduce the 5.8% svr on the remaining mortgage debt we would then have on property B.
 
It does look as if selling and moving into Investment B will make it a lot easier

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If you reduce the mortgage to €70k, presumably they will scrap the split mortgage so you will pay 5.8% on the €70k.

But as it will be your home, they will probably reduce the rate.

You should talk to Start before you sell your home. Let them suggest a solution.

Brendan
 
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