This was brought up in another thread Revenue Self Service.
Is there truth to this rumour? What impact will it have on the the individuals involved and the payroll systems which pay their wages?
This was brought up in another thread Revenue Self Service.who will have to change every married woman's PPS no. over the coming months!
ajapale said:This was brought up in another thread Revenue Self Service.
Is there truth to this rumour? What impact will it have on the the individuals involved and the payroll systems which pay their wages?
ajapale said:Yes, in the past married women had an extra character added to their husband's pps number. The extra letter is a "W" and 99% of the time its the last character but Ive seen some where it was the second last character.
I wonder are revenue just issuing numbers to women on the old series on request or is it a blanket operation for all women on the old series?
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woods said:Everybody is issued with a number at birth and then it was changed (for women) when you got married.
Are they giving the old number back to you or is it a completly new number.
Sunnyboy said:I suppose that it could just be a sign of the changing times that we are living in, more's the pity.
Suppose a man marries, then divorces, and remarries again, then wife No 1 would have the same RSI No as wife no 2.
Where some of these foreign religions and cultures allow multiple marriages at the same time, the whole Irish system would collapse, if all the spouses of the male, kept his number with a W added on. At least if a person has the same number from cradle to grave, the State will always be able to keep track of them and their various relationships.
Giving a number at birth has only been in effect since 1971, so most of the affected women wouldn't have an old number to go back to.woods said:Everybody is issued with a number at birth and then it was changed (for women) when you got married.
Are they giving the old number back to you or is it a completly new number.
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If you are a married women you may have what is termed a "Level W" number which is your husband's number with the letter W added indicating "wife". These numbers are no longer allocated but existing numbers are still valid for Social Welfare Purposes.
It is now the Department's policy is to replace all Level W numbers with new or already existing pre-marriage numbers.
This becomes particularly necessary if as a married woman you re-enter the work force and apply to the Revenue Commissioners for a certificate of Tax Credits. However, you will be asked for any missing details to update your record which could include your Long Form Birth Certificate if there is no date of birth on your original record.
In a few cases the PPS No is in the format 1234567AW, where the final digit is always "W", this is termed a "Level W" number. The latter code was used for women - "W" from "wife" - who married and automatically adopted the same number as their husband. This practice stopped in 1991 chiefly due to equal rights concerns.
The present policy is that these Level W numbers are eliminated as when bearer comes in contact with social welfare or tax offices and are replaced by the original number, alternatively a new number is issued when none is traceable.
umop3p!sdn said:For payroll companies the ramifications could be quite severe. PSS number is used to consolidate P35s. Now it is possible that people can have two separate PPS numbers per tax year.
They are changing a fundamental rule without consulting payroll companies. Expect chaos.
Yes I think they are doing it on an as "required basis". I dont imagine all those older widows (on pension) out there on the W series are going to be reissued with new numbers.Perhaps they're doing this slowly e.g. when people ring in or as stated when there's a need to contact tax office.