replacing glazing

looper

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Hi,
Just looking at replacing the double glazing to my 10year old windows. is this mad as i want to get triple glazing. Would the frame be still suitable or is it a complete window im looking at?
 
Firstly are the timber or are they upvc windows and what type of double glazing do they have at the minute? Do you know the thickness of the double glazed unit i.e 16mm or the more modern 24mm?

I am thinking of upgrading the double glazing in my hardwood windows which are 10 yrs old as well, the glazing in mine at present is 4/8/4 (16mm) "K" glass with standard float to outside and aluminium spacer bar, (I know most companies are using this as standard "low-e" now). When I was ordering the glass 10yrs ago everyone thought that I was crazy as most people had'nt even heard of "K" glass. It would be classed as C rated units now. I am just very interested in conserving energy/heat where ever possible. We have just upgraded the insulation in our attic.

I have alot of glazing in my house and all the glass is toughened as most windows are over 7' high. I would love to have A rated units which comprise of an outer pane with Optiwhite and an inner pane with an Optishield or simular (both panes would have a soft coat) and a warmedge spacer bar and argon filled.

Triple glazing is very very expensive as the three panes have to be toughened (even where toughened glass is not needed to meet regualtions) due to the build up of heat inside the pane. It does not give any significantly better uvalue rating that the double that I described above in A rated. A Triple glazed unit would need to be 44mm thich to get any significant difference in uvalues. It is more for sound.

The A rated unit that I gave above on the Pilkington Spectrum Web Site gives a uvalue of 1.2 in a 24mm unit and to achieve 0.9 for a triple glazed unit it needs to be a 44mm unit which is not typically possible in a domestic situation.

If sound is a problem, use two different thicknesses of glass in your double glazed unit and this will help to reduce sound as the frequency has to change its speed to travel through the two different thicknesses of glass thus losing more of its noise in the process.
 
My windows are PVC with 16mm double glazing. I have just bought the house and its stamped on the aluminium divider ''1/99 euroseal'' of the window. I am also trying to conserve energy by reinsulating the attic and timber frame structure nof the house. It seems to be the u value of the glass which i need to concentrate on, not the triple glazing. is there any way of finding out what u value i have currently prior to buying glazing which might not be suitable. i dont want to spend good money on having the walls and attic with high efficency and the heat been lost through windows and doors.
 
The 1/99 euroseal stamped on the spacer bar, I would assume means January, 1999 these units were made by euroseal. Most companies used to stamp the spacer bar for guarantee dates.

Worth asking a few local glaziers or PVC window suppliers for quotes for the same. I would also be looking at the seals at this stage as they may have perished and not be preforming to their best after 10 years. I have replaced all the seals on my windows and some of the hinges. (I am in the trade). It might be more economical to replace the windows to "A" rated insulated windows, bear in mind the redecorating costs involved. Look at all your options first.

All I know is that years ago when double glazing was float both sides and then the newer soft/hard coats came out they reconned that the now standard "low-e" gave 166% better performance than the original double glazing. I don't have any figures for the new A rated against the original float both sides.

More than likely it is standard original 4mm float/8mm spacer/4mm float for the age as coatings were only starting to come on the market and my units were September 1999 and I had to wait for Vistatherm/ Carey's Glass to get in the "K" glass in order to have it in my units. Only for research on the internet at the time I would'nt have known anything about coatings.