serotoninsid
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I thought I'd read something to that effect on aam before -thanks.Small claims court is only for claiming against businesses, not individuals.
Will do. He's the type not to sign for registered post - but I guess in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter?I'd suggest you write him a letter and indicate that you don't want to take him to court but are prepared to if he doesn't reimburse you. Spell out the precise dates of the breakage and of subsequent attempts at contact. Give him a reasonable timeframe to reply/make payment, after which you'll instruct your solicitor. Might be worth paying €2 to register the letter.
Your taking the pragmatic view and I suppose that's the intelligent way of looking at it. However, I'm sorry but I can't let it go. I decided to be more flexible than I ever had been with any previous lodgers and I paid the price accordingly (not just with this - but in general). It's frustrating when you go out of your way to accommodate people - and all they see that as is a weakness to be exploited.SPUDZ said:Is it really worth your time and trouble? Just get it fixed, learn from the experience and let it go.Life is too short...don't sweat the small stuff.
I thought I'd read something to that effect on aam before -thanks.
Will do. He's the type not to sign for registered post - but I guess in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter?
If he claims that he has no knowledge of it (I don't have any witnesses), where would that scenario be likely to leave me? (just thinking of potential pitfalls).
Your taking the pragmatic view and I suppose that's the intelligent way of looking at it. However, I'm sorry but I can't let it go. I decided to be more flexible than I ever had been with any previous lodgers and I paid the price accordingly (not just with this - but in general). It's frustrating when you go out of your way to accommodate people - and all they see that as is a weakness to be exploited.
I will learn from the experience - but by having to go to this trouble - that will be my lesson. His lesson will be to have taken me as a soft touch in the first instance.
It wasn't fixed. It's still as is.How much did this window pane cost to get fixed.
I came home - and he drew it to my attention immediately. He had been horse-playing around with some friends of his that he had round - and that was the result.dereko1969 said:Sorry but perhaps I'm mis-reading this but how can you be certain he was the one that caused the damage?
As above - and he had immediately said he would get it sorted - that he knew someone in a local window co....etc. etc. It came up in conversation a couple of times - and he said he would get it sorted.dereko1969 said:If it hadn't been pointed out to him before he left, he's quite entitled to think that you might be pulling a fast one.
dereko1969 said:I'd agree with others and let it go.
nigey said:I agree with the other posters. It may be annoying but i'm assuming it wasn't a huge amount of money.
I don't know what it cost lads and I see where your coming from. However, If I can establish that I can squeeze the cash out of him via the court system - then I will do it. It may prevent some other innocent bystander from being tested with the same pathetic behaviour (ie. I'm no millionaire but it's only 50% motivated by the money - the rest on principal).Bronte said:put it down to experience, it is not worth the hassle.
Well, I don't mind the former - if I can establish that I stand to get a result. That's the only thing that I'm concerned about (and it may well be that the fact that I am serious about persuing that option will bring him to his senses).Even getting legal advice, not to mind going to court, will cost you a multiple of the value of the window and with no guarantee of success.
Eh - with your spin on it, NO!Is this a fair summary of this thread ?
The outer pane of a double glazed window has a crack running through it. The inner pane is intact.1. A tenant broke a window pane.
He broke it 9-10 months ago. It wasn't replaced as when he told me about it, he said he would get it sorted. He was reminded of it every now and again between then and now (and he only moved out recently).He broke it a year ago and you still have not had it replaced.
relevance?? See above.3. You have not even found out the cost of having it replaced.
I am trying to establish whether this is the case - and if it is legally as black and white as that. The guy admitted to breaking it. On another occasion, the guy retold the story - the only time the story was retold in front of a witness - but then that was his best mate.4. You cannot prove in a court of law that it was the tenant.
This is the point that I was looking for constructive input on ie. as to whether it's as clearcut as that - and that the above is the case.4. You cannot prove in a court of law that it was the tenant.
My reading of the comments of others was that it 'wasn't worth the time and effort required'. As I have outlined, I'm prepared to go through whatever hoops need to be gone through in order for the right thing to come about. The only thing that I am pondering is No.4.All the comments received so far are telling you to drop the matter and move on.
Clearly there is. At what point did I say 'everyone is wrong'? In fact if you go back and read what I posted, you will see that I recognised the point that one of the first posters made as the pragmatic approach. I also explained why I was motivated enough to do whatever has to be done to get this "person" to do the right thing.Is there something that you may have overlooked to tell us that makes you still think that everyone is wrong ?
Yes, this is what I had in mind. On first instance, he's avoiding me and not answering my calls but I guess the next step will be go find him (which isn't that difficult).It seems you have made your decison already...you are going after this guy at all costs.While my own personal opinion is to just forget about it...I understand your feelings regarding chasing it on principal.It seems to me from your posts...it is not about the money....you are motivated by the principal of the thing and making sure the guy does what is right...particularly as he said he would get it fixed...a man is only as good as his word and all that. So with that in mind...I would advise tracking him down first...you said you can find him if needed? Go and find him...tell him you will not let it go...and if he doesn't cough up...he will be hearing from your solicitor.
Got on with him fine and left on (otherwise) good terms. Well it's possible that he's bad with cash (he's no millionaire but he's earning regularly...but might not be great with managing his money). I suppose this was the reason I allowed it to linger so long ( a mistake in hindsight). Then again, that's never stopped him from cutting his entertainment budget (and i'd wager he wouldn't mind if I 'forgot' about it permanently)How was your relationship while living with him?...Was he usually a decent bloke...but maybe is avoiding you as he just does not have the cash and cannot afford to pay?
Meh...i'm not bothered about that (albeit the point is well made...if I was dealing with a proper scumbag, then I guess I'd leave well enough alone!).Good Luck...but bear in mind...he knows where you live...so depending on the character you are dealing with....you mite end up with more than one broken window once you get the law involved.
Sure - 'Dr. Moriarty' made a constructive point on how the problem could be tackled. I'm appreciative for it and intend to follow it in the first instance - although I might meet the individual first and give them one more chance to do the right thing. As regards 'you claim without legal proof..' - I recognise an issue here - but it may not be. Are you a legal expert on these matters?Other than everyone's advice to drop the matter the next best advice was the immediate reply from Dr Moriarty post 2, which basically suggested.....
... if you really want to pursue someone who ( you claim without legal proof) cracked a window pane a year ago then the only legal recourse is a letter accompanied by an invoice and ,if you are really that serious, a promise of legal action.
Your reading into something that's not there. If you go back and re-read - we otherwise got on quite well and there was another specific reason for his leaving - nothing related to me or the house he shared with me and others. I don't think it unreasonable to give him every opportunity to do what he should.The contents and tone of your comments thus far are slightly worrying, especially any suggestion that "you'll go find this person".
Harrassment? Are you for real? According to your logic, I could get someone in to fit said window and have them present me with an invoice, follow up with calls for payment, call round to me requesting payment - and me ignoring my responsibilities in this regard would be fine?You've already asked him. Turning up at his home/place of work or wherever, may be construed as harrasment.
... but not paying bills I find morally reprehensible and this is a micro-example of what happens with small companies throughout the country.
Talk about going off topic!! - but if you must ask - I don't feel that we - as tax payers have any responsibility when it comes to ANY privately owned bank (of which they all were). I believe that we should have followed Iceland (although I accept I have only a laymans understanding of the whole thing and that things have got a hell of a lot more complicated since...but way back then - that's the position that should have been taken).Why is your location set to "burn the bondholders" then?
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