Perhaps a third issue is that claims for soft tissue injuries are difficult if not impossible to disprove, with the massive compensation available, the temptation to exaggerate the injury is great.
The question of compensation, is where I think the Irish system is in a complete bubble. So you fell down the stairs, that does not mean you should get an award equal to several years average after tax income.
Perhaps a third issue is that claims for soft tissue injuries are difficult if not impossible to disprove
We already have threads on the compo culture and compo amounts. I am talking about the broader issue of personal responsibility; being a grown-up and being responsible for your own actions. We just don't operate that way as a society. The compo culture is a symptom of this but so is the "I have a right to..." and "I am entitled to..." culture. Even the communists had the "From each according to his ability" bit before "To each according to his needs". We just have the latter.I think your approach here is too broad brush.
I am talking about the broader issue of personal responsibility; being a grown-up and being responsible for your own actions. We just don't operate that way as a society.
If you don't work then you can work you should starve. I mean that literally.
If you get drunk when you are out for a meal and fall down a stairs the restaurant in question should be able to sue you.
If you then need medical care you should be charged the full cost and your house should be sold to pay for it if necessary.
If you don't work then you can work you should starve. I mean that literally.
If you get drunk when you are out for a meal and fall down a stairs the restaurant in question should be able to sue you.
We spend over €20 billion a year on healthcare. How much of that is the result of people's poor choices?
If we knew that we would go to prison for making a fraudulent insurance claim
The Famine, really?What happens if you don't work, when you can work, because there is no work? Didn't something like this happen during the Famine?
No, none whatsoever.Does the seller of the alcohol bear any responsibility in a person getting drunk?
Fat people are a bigger burden (no pun intended), you just can't get around that (maybe there). The general point is that as long as the State is your Mammy you know that you don't really have to take responsibility for your actions. Do you not get the generaal point? If you do caan you not discuss the general point instead of going down rabbit holes by getting into the specifics of general points?Hard to quantify, but if it is legal to smoke, and smokers pay taxes, then its probably only fair that they are not discriminated against in terms of healthcare. If we want to reduce the health costs of people smoking, then ban the sale of cigarettes for a start.
I could end up banging Ann Hathaway but what are the chances of it actually happening?You can go to prison for fraudulent insurance claims and people have gone to prison for fraudulent insurance claims.
See above; are you unable to discuss the general topic, the theme of the thread?According to this, smokers pay their way in healthcare, just from the tax take on cigarette sales alone. Nevermind what they pay in income tax, vat, etc
Government spends €2bn tax revenue from cigarettes on smoking-related illnesses
The Government rakes in an estimated €2 billion a year in tax revenue from cigarettes but roughly the same amount is spent on treating illness caused by tobacco.www.independent.ie
The lost working time, lost taxed from labour and societal costs are part of that larger discussion.
No, none whatsoever
I'm not, I'm giving examples which speak to a broader issue.You could apply that reasoning to an unlimited amount of scenarios where people make poor choices. Why focus on drinkers and smokers?
No, it applies to everyone. If the stairs is faulty then the restaurant owner is at fault. But please try to comment on the broader issue rather than dissecting other people's posts without giving your own views.So taking personal responsibility only applies to some people? Not all.
First the Famine and now the restaurants will close. You're a glass half empty kind of guy, eh?I think you are right, peoples attitudes will change. They will either avoid restaurants altogether or moderate their drinking to minimum amounts. Sales of alcohol will plummet and as a society we will be healthier for it.
Probably put a lot of restaurants out of business and make a lot of people unemployed. But at least we will know that if they don't work, they can starve.
Thanks, you too!Good luck!
If you don't work then you can work you should starve. I mean that literally.
If you get drunk when you are out for a meal and fall down a stairs the restaurant in question should be able to sue you.
If you then need medical care you should be charged the full cost and your house should be sold to pay for it if necessary.
I could end up banging Ann Hathaway but what are the chances of it actually happening?
You've no thoughts on the actual topic of the thread then?
Incorrect. It is contrary to the terms of a publican’s licence to serve someone who is intoxicated. Intoxication is enough to justify refusing a customer’s right to service.No, none whatsoever.
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