johnwilliams
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johnwilliams said:was listening to the news and i thought i heard the announcer saw that penalty points for driving on hard shoulder was part of the 31 penalty points to come into effect on april 1. am i correct did i hear right
Sorry, but no sympathy from this quarter. I would guess that some EU infrastructual funding was used to resurface/improve the road. Ergo, compliance with EU road standards is required (cycle lane width, colour, signage, etc.) IMNSHO one of the finest applications of EU bureaucracy.delgirl said:Yes, you heard right - also driving in cycle lanes, which is impossible not to do where I live as the road is not wide enough for two cars to pass without driving in them.
delgirl, can you give examples of where there is a cycle lane leaving the car lane too narrow?
As I understand it, the cycle lanes were created only because there was a surplus in funding and they, Wicklow County Council, couldn't think of anything else to do with the money! Hardly any bicycles use this particular road and it was an absolute total and complete waste of money.Max Hopper said:Sorry, but no sympathy from this quarter. I would guess that some EU infrastructual funding was used to resurface/improve the road. Ergo, compliance with EU road standards is required (cycle lane width, colour, signage, etc.) IMNSHO one of the finest applications of EU bureaucracy.
Dunbur Road in Wicklow Town.delgirl, can you give examples of where there is a cycle lane leaving the car lane too narrow?
delgirl, any chance that the cycle lanes you refer to are marked with a dotted line rather than a continuous line? If so, I don't think that you will incur points for driving on them as they are more of a notional cycle lane. Driving in cycle lanes marked with a continuous line will, in theory, incur points. I don't want to start ranting about the points but the whole thing is a mess, nothing more than revenue generation and an attempt to create the illusion that the government is doing something.delgirl said:.. also driving in cycle lanes, which is impossible not to do where I live as the road is not wide enough for two cars to pass without driving in them.
To be honest with you, I hadn't noticed that some lanes have a dotted line and others continuous! Yes, the one in Wicklow Town has a dotted line - that's great news if it means we don't get penalised for driving in a cycle lane that we can't avoid!michaelm said:delgirl, any chance that the cycle lanes you refer to are marked with a dotted line rather than a continuous line? If so, I don't think that you will incur points for driving on them as they are more of a notional cycle lane.
Cahir said:What does "Failure to turn left when entering a roundabout" mean? What if you want to go right?
Or are they talking about people who might drive over the roundabout?
and the poster is wrong. The dashed white marking indicates that the cycle track may be invaded for the purpose of crossing over it (ingress/egress of driveway, carpark, intersecting road, etc.) and not driving on.the cycle lanes you refer to are marked with a dotted line rather than a continuous line? If so, I don't think that you will incur points for driving on them as they are more of a notional cycle lane.
Indeed. I'm not convinced that this explains the situation whereby a cycle lane is marked with a dotted line for it's entire length.Max Hopper said:Had a good look at this recently - and the poster is wrong. The dashed white marking indicates that the cycle track may be invaded for the purpose of crossing over it (ingress/egress of driveway, carpark, intersecting road, etc.) and not driving on.
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