If people from say Germany arrive into Dublin, is it any worse than say people from Galway arriving into Dublin? Or people from Blanchardstown going to Dublin city centre?
It is obvious that very small numbers of people are travelling from these countries yet they have been responsible for bringing in new infections because the corona virus must be out of control there.
Care to stand up any credible evidence to stand up those assertions ?
Care to stand up any credible evidence to stand up those assertions ?
Therefore the focus should be on these hotspots
Yes that's true, but you are not factoring the economic and social cost , if there is 1000 people travelling to Europe versus 1 to Iraq and they have the same risk, the 1000 tourists and holidays have huge benefits in terms of economy and social morale, the 1 person travelling to Iraq has negligible economic benefit as a whole, therefore the risk of spreading infection by 1000 holidays to Europe a is risk worth taking simply because of the added benefits, risk and reward.The risk factor is made up of a combination of the prevalence of COVID-19 in the general population in the origin country multiplied by the numbers travelling from that country. You might be 1,000 times more likely to contract COVID-19 in Iraq than mainland Europe, but if we have 10,000 times more people arriving from Europe, it's those people that present the greater risk.
Yes that's true, but you are not factoring the economic and social cost ,
therefore the risk of spreading infection by 1000 holidays to Europe a is risk worth taking simply because of the added benefits, risk and reward.
If Ireland had been locked down straight away in March things might have been so much better now, I think anyway. Hindsight is a wonderful thing of course.
I can see why people want to travel though as there is so many problems with refunds etc. Personally I would not travel .
But in general the situation in Europe has vastly improved since March and now Europe is on its guard and picking up these new infections quickly. The big rise is happening unfortunately in poor countries outside Europe. It was always going to be the case that infections would rise considerably when we went from severe lockdown to controlled opening up. The corollary is that because infections will rise when restrictions are lifted we keep everything on lockdown indefinitely. Firstly this is unaffordable it was financed by money printing but you can only print money for a short period or else you start approaching a Zimbabwe situation. You can't print houses , food and pharmaceuticals. The real economy cannot be locked down indefinitely even if it is the case that corona virus rises considerably. Even Leo varadker said this, we can never go into total lockdown again , there will be local lockdowns and red list countries where travel is restricted.People seem to be forgetting that the pandemic is getting worse. Improvements in Ireland do not equate to an end of it.
And countries like Portugal are going backwards
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