New entrants to the public sector MUST start at the bottom afaik.Hi, I am on a panel for a job in the public sector. I have never worked in the public sector before.
It's a Grade 7 position and I was told that I would have to start at the lowest increment in the scale.
Is that always true or is it possible to negotiate a higher increment level based on private sector experience?
Ok, thanks for the quick replyNew entrants to the public sector MUST start at the bottom afaik.
It was possible pre 2008 to negotiate a higher point at entry.New entrants to the public sector MUST start at the bottom afaik
I lost a very experienced and qualified person, at a similar grade to what the OP is referring to back to the private sector last year (who grudgingly accepted the job and then tried to negotiate the salary point afterwards).It was possible pre 2008 to negotiate a higher point at entry.
You had to demonstrate skills and experience though, you couldn't just use your private sector salary.
I have no direct experience but I had read recently that in some cases they were showing flexibility again. All you can do is ask.
If you don't, they'll shrug and move on to the next person on the panel.
Entry at a higher point would only be considered if they actually can't fill the position without doing it. Realistically that'll only apply in very niche and/or quite senior roles.
Without knowing the specifics of the job, unless it’s a difficult position to fill, negotiation isn’t really an option. If you accept the offer, it will be assumed that you’re willing to accept the stated pay as part of that offer. It won’t play well if you start trying to renegotiate the deal as soon as you land. You’re highly unlikely to achieve any improvement.So what I would do is get the offer, talk to the employer, sound very keen, send them your CV, look to see where you'll be placed, etc. At that point try a "by the way, I think I'm valuable enough to you to start me on a higher increment point".
Yes, but there is no downside and some upside to the strategy I outlined above.Without knowing the specifics of the job, unless it’s a difficult position to fill, negotiation isn’t really an option. If you accept the offer, it will be assumed that you’re willing to accept the stated pay as part of that offer. It won’t play well if you start trying to renegotiate the deal as soon as you land. You’re highly unlikely to achieve any improvement.
Even at a 1% chance, an additional ≈€3k annual increment is worth a polite request.I’m not seeing the upside.
It certainly seems to have applied for the new Secretary General of the Dept of HealthRealistically that'll only apply in very niche and/or quite senior roles.
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