And what of Wales?
The countries in the UK that voted leave could have a clean break, or whatever arrangement that may be agreed upon during transition period
Just because the oirish have comical accents doesn't mean they have to be jealous of others. Lets hope the UK still allows the cattle boats to enter the U.K. and the Paddies can still go there after Brexit.Nice one WolfeTone,
The only question I'd have is whether your accent is sufficiently plummy to sell this to the Little Inglinders?
True, but both Great Britain and the United Kingdom voted to leave. And London, the capital of England, of GB and of the UK, voted to remain.Both Norn Ireland and Scotland voted to Remain. Wales voted to leave. So seems like a good compromise to me.
Something big has happened. Simple Simon said the other day that this is not a question of money. Maybe Boris promised to pay our National Debt. Leo would surely bite his hand off for that. As George Bernard Shaw remarked, we are all prostitutes, just haggling about the price.Lots of excitement in Brexitland this morning. Not sure what the potential 'breakthrough' could be, hardly a compromise to move the Brexit border to England/Scotland?
My guess is that Boris will cede the backstop to Ireland but in a different form of words.
The backstop will be facilitated. A carrot will be thrown to DUP that the assembly, once up and running, will have oversight on any dilution of NI's status within the UK (meaningless, but symbolic).
Wright Bus to be 'magically' saved. Perhaps investment to return ship building to Belfast? How enticing and symbolic of Brexit would it be if, upon Britainnia's quest to trade independently with the rest of the world post-brexit, that the British government invested in its own ship-building in Belfast?
Arguments over customs borders in the Irish sea would evaporate. It might even be enough to pass an Irish language Act. The Shinners could crow about how their resistance paid off, Unionists could dismiss it as an irrelevance relative to the prospect of Britain ruling the waves once more, as Britain sets sail to trade independently.
All from the heart of Belfast.
That seems really unworkable. So NI folk can buy their Mercs tariff free through RoI and their Jags from GB tariff free. Huge tariff advantage in, say, a car manufacturer establishing in NI. It gets its raw materials from whichever bloc is the cheapest and without any tariffs and it sells its end product to both blocs again without tariffs. Unless there are checks at Rosslare and/or Cherbourg etc. to ascertain whether goods coming from RoI originated in NI. Would that be acceptableIt would seem to give NI the advantage of customs access to both the EU and UK customs unions but at the expense of the extra administrative burden of collecting EU tariff (and refund, where applicable).
So NI folk can buy their Mercs tariff free through RoI and their Jags from GB tariff free.
I read Denis Staunton's article in the IT. As you say, he states that NI people will pay the lesser of the EU tariff or the UK tariff. But GB folk do not pay tariffs on UK goods (by definition!) so that is a clear differentiation and also quite a serious threat to NI business which conducts 4 times as much East/West trade as North/South.Customs and tariffs are beyond my ken but that is not my understnding. The NI folks would have to pay UK tariffs in NI. If purchasing in the Republic they would have to pay EU tariffs. There would be no tariff free. However, the devil will be in the details anyway and these will be the make or break points.
And there is always VRT!
Which means NI folk get their (UK manufatured) Jags tariff free. A Dublin Merc dealer will get her Mercs from Germany tariff free and and can transport them up the road to Belfast also tariff free. Surely even the DUP will not resist this best of both worlds.
There may be a Free Trade Agreement and indeed that would answer my earlier point. But equivalence on tariffs is not the same thing. That Germans pay 10% on Jags whilst Brits pay 10% on Mercs does not alter the fact that Germans pay 0% on Mercs and Brits 0% on Jags and the good people of Ulster pay 0% on eitherI assume that in whatever trade agreement emerges after the transition period there will be equivalence on car tariffs, ie, UK manufactured cars are not going to get access to the EU market unless UK allows access to their market on equivalent tariff terms. If the UK wants their car industry to maintain access to the EU there will have to be tariff equivalence. I don't think there is a UK car industry without the EU.
There may be a Free Trade Agreement and indeed that would answer my earlier point. But equivalence on tariffs is not the same thing. That Germans pay 10% on Jags whilst Brits pay 10% on Mercs does not alter the fact that Germans pay 0% on Mercs and Brits 0% on Jags and the good people of Ulster pay 0% on either
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