Liam has been around this site contributing helpful advice* (for free) for a very long time and most users of the site would be well aware of his status as a broker.Also, LDFerguson, as this is a discussion relating to mortage brokers you probably should have mentioned in your post that you yourself are a mortgage broker as revealed in the post by emul.
if i was a mortgage broker i wouldn't necessarily want to get the best rate for my client but rather the highest commission for myself.
Otherwise why do they exist?
As far as I know there are no laws that say the mortage broker must get the best rate for their client.
None of the brokers I talked to mentioned this.
The person seeking a mortgage is not out to make sure that the Mortgage Broker gets his commission - he's out to get the cheapest mortgage for him/her. You are condoning deliberately holding back information from your prospective client until a time that suits you to increase your chances of getting his business.
Also, LDFerguson, as this is a discussion relating to mortage brokers you probably should have mentioned in your post that you yourself are a mortgage broker as revealed in the post by emul. I have read many of your posts on this site and you give helpful information but I think it's a valid point in this instance.
I've been contributing to Askaboutmoney in my own name since it started years ago. I often sign off posts with my website address. I presumed (after over 1,100 posts on this version of Askaboutmoney.com alone) that most users were aware I am a broker. However, I agree that in a discussion about mortgage brokers, it is relevant information that I am a broker and I apologise for not making this clear in my earlier post.
I used a broker on my first home and direct to my bank on second - found it SO much easier the second time. No accountability with broker and passed round three different people, whereas one visit to branch and sorted for second.
I'd love to think that were the case but I'm don't know whether it is to be honest. I'm sure there are a lot of unscrupulous mortgage brokers out there, earning a lot of money for themselves, taking advantage of those people that are too lazy to or feel incapable of shopping around themselves. That's not to say all or even a majority are unscrupulous, yourself included.If you were a broker and operated to such standards, you would find that you would get very little referral business from existing clients and in today's competitive market-place you would probably go out of business fairly quickly.
If someone is committing themselves to paying hundreds of thousands of euros in interest for decades of their life, surely they can make some time to make a few phone calls and look at a few websites (including parts of this site!) to minimise their repayments.Because many clients do not have the time or inclination to research ten or twelve possible lenders, each offering at least half a dozen rate options and subtle differences between ostensibly similar products, when they could go to a good broker instead.
Well, I'm dealing with one person for my mortgage which I'm getting directly from a bank. Even if I had to deal with a call centre it wouldn't bother me that much if I'm saving myself loads of money.There also the service issue - would you prefer to have the same point of contact from start to finish on your application or would you prefer dealing with lenders' call centres to whom you are little more than a customer number?
Of course not. But as stated in a previous post, the mortgage brokers I dealt with never told me of the lowest priced mortgage available to me in the market place at the moment. If I had gone with one of them rather than spending an hour or 2 on the web, I would be paying a bigger mortgage than I am now.If another lender happens to undercut National Irish Bank's rate before your mortgage completes, will National Irish Bank advise you of this?
That's good to hear. Does this actually happen - have unscrupulous brokers been prosecuted, fined, put out of business, jailed?There are several. The Consumer Protection Code governs all mortgage brokers and it's a fundamental part of this code that the broker must act in the best interests of the client. The Financial Regulator routinely audits firms and if a broker is found to have recommended a product that wasn't the most suitable from the range available to the broker, there can be consequences.
No, all contact was on the phone or via email. I dealt with 3 brokers and none of them said which institutions they dealt with / didn't deal with although, in fairness, I didn't ask.No broker will get paid commission by National Irish Bank, but the list of lending institutions that a broker can access must be disclosed to the client before any advice is given. This is uaually done on the Terms of Business letter. Did you get this from brokers you contacted?
Yes. If they can get me a better rate than I can get elsewhere then I'll go through them. If not, I won't.Do you think that a mortgage broker should research the best available mortgage for you, and give you out that information for free?
Have already replied to this but just to say I know you are a great contributor to this site and have helped a lot of people.I've been contributing to Askaboutmoney in my own name since it started years ago. I often sign off posts with my website address. I presumed (after over 1,100 posts on this version of Askaboutmoney.com alone) that most users were aware I am a broker. However, I agree that in a discussion about mortgage brokers, it is relevant information that I am a broker and I apologise for not making this clear in my earlier post.
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