hi,
so the onus is on the applicant regardless of what their combined salary is? There doesnt seem to be any link between paye and social welfare.
said couple will most likely be on a combined income of 80k come september and yet they can avail of the medical card and reduced childcare costs until the next review which is 1 or 2 years down the line? because they have no intention of informing the hse when wife goes back to full time work in september.
makes me wonder why I work at all.
of course it is fraud. I am just amazed that they can do this. That is why I asked the question as couldnt believe it at first. They will save themselves a considerable amount of money between medical bills and childcare costs. and all the while in fulltime employment in the public sector - so they have job security.1. you could paraphrase your concern as "My friend is planning to defraud Social Welfare and Revenue and I don't think he'll get caught". This is not one of the anomaly situations where a person is better off not working - this is fraud, pure and simple.
every soul in this country has a pps number. how hard could it be to do a check?2. It's not so much that there is no link between Revenue and social welfare as that Revenue don't actually run all the payroll in the country - they have no real idea what a person is earning until after year end. The onus is on the taxpayer to ensure that they are paying the correct amount of tax and that they are not claiming any welfare they are not entitled to. Of course this remains the taxpayer's responsibility regardless of how much they are earning. How could it be otherwise?
according to said couple, a hse creche will only charge a portion of full fees to all medical card holders. I have my own child in a hse creche but wasent aware of this fact as I dont have a medical card and am paying the full amount.3. I don't know what reduced childcare costs you are referring to?
this is also in relation to previous posts. My issue isnt with over 70's right or not to a medical card. Or even under 70's. I just cant understand how a married couple both in fulltime employment can get a medical card.I also agree that the threshold for over 70's medical cards is set ridiculously high - perhaps there should be a system where those with very high medical costs (people in the age group tend to have higher medical costs even than those with young children) could be subsidised once their costs hit a certain level?
As I said, Revenue don't run payroll. They could call up every employer in the country and ask them what so-and-so earned last week, but that would be impractical. All Revenue get during the year is a monthly return from each employer paying over the total PAYE/PRSI/USC for the firm. They don't get a breakdown of how much each employee was actually paid until the P35 is submitted in February.every soul in this country has a pps number. how hard could it be to do a check?
I didn't know about that.according to said couple, a hse creche will only charge a portion of full fees to all medical card holders. I have my own child in a hse creche but wasent aware of this fact as I dont have a medical card and am paying the full amount.
A couple with a few kids both in low-paid jobs would qualify and rightly so in my opinion. I realise that that is not the case with your friends.this is also in relation to previous posts. My issue isnt with over 70's right or not to a medical card. Or even under 70's. I just cant understand how a married couple both in fulltime employment can get a medical card.
Equally, you could fake up some payslips and make a bogus claim for a medical card and the system can do very little to counter-act that. I'm guessing you wouldn't because a) you're not a cheat and/or b) you would probably eventually get caught. The fact that it's possible and probably happens doesn't make it a loophole (An ambiguity or inadequacy in the law or a set of rules).y point is that as a paye worker myself (in the private sector) paying out left right and centre for everything (creche,doctors,mortgage etc) and with myself and my partner taxed to the hilt, i find it hard to stomach another couple in a similar situation can avail of a loophole in the system.
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